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Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of the Typical Skeptic Podcast.
I'm really excited about my guest today.
I have with me the amazing Jim Girard.
Jim's been on my show at least 30 times.
He's one of the most frequent guests on my show.
Jim's the author of Dice Code Divination, and he's also the author of the book The Matrix is the Glitch.
And tonight he's going to be talking, we're going to be showing a new painting that he's done.
We always premiere his paintings here, you know, the paintings that he does.
And then we also, you know, we'll also talk about a topic too.
And the topic from tonight is a reading he got from the year 2060.
So tell me that's not going to be awesome.
Yeah.
To hear what's going on in the year 2060.
I don't think I'll be around in 2060.
I mean, I hope I will, but I mean, I don't know what kind of condition I'm going to be in if I am around 2060, but Jim, thanks so much for coming back on, man.
How are you? Good.
Thanks for having me on again.
Absolutely, man.
What is this? The 32nd time you've been on my show or how many times you think it's been? 41.
41.
41.
Holy shit, man.
That has to be a record.
You might be the most, you might be the most guests on of all time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I want to hook up this microphone.
Hold on.
Okay.
Good.
Yeah.
We're good.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
So, uh, yeah.
Uh, so I was going to show your painting first.
Uh, let me see if I can share my screen and, uh, And let me see here.
I am going to share my screen.
Hold on.
So I'll do share, share, share screen, share.
So it looks amazing.
Not much different stuff in this one, just like patterns, geometric shapes and stuff.
Did you want to get into it a little bit?
Okay, there it is.
Yeah, I just wanted to do something that was nice to look at and was geometric and sort of colorful.
Yeah.
Does it represent anything to you?
It's sort of a copy of a pencil sketch that I did some years ago and tried to reproduce it with paint.
Yeah, for some reason it has like a Toltec Don Juan feel to me, too.
It looks kind of Aztec.
Yeah,
yeah.
It's interesting, right? In that sense,
you
know?
Yeah.
Is there any other like hidden meanings in it that we can think about?
No, it's just I like doing these kind of paintings because they're very easy to do.
I can do the outline in three or four days.
And then a month later, it's completely finished.
Yeah, that's cool.
The other paintings take four to five, sometimes six months.
Wow.
Yeah.
Okay, well, it's an amazing painting.
It really is.
I'll stop sharing now.
And let me see here.
Let me stop share.
And did you want to talk about your, and those are some of the paintings you did behind you.
Some of those are amazing.
I see, which one was that with the tree? Did we cover that one with the tree
and the star? Yeah, Tree of Knowledge I did for Sonia Testaments.
Okay, okay, yeah, we did cover it.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
She interviewed me and she explained all of the images and what they meant.
Yeah, yeah, that's
cool.
Okay, and so what does this have been reading from 2060 that you came across? Okay,
I've seen a lot of science fiction movies about the future and they're all very depressing doomsday sort of apocalypse kind of you know, scenarios.
I don't like any of
them.
So I came across a remote viewer and he was talking about a remote view that they went to the year 2060 and they were saying that people, you know, cities were more like villages and people were growing gardens and that the government was very, very reduced.
And my guess is that there were using artificial intelligence as a, you know, like a law enforcement.
Wow.
Wow.
People didn't travel in the future, he was saying.
Wow.
Who said this? Who had this from you? I should have wrote it down.
It wasn't Courtney Clarks.
Yeah.
It wasn't him.
Yeah.
Wow.
So does this give you hope for the future?
Or what do you think? It was the only version of the future that I ever saw that was optimistic.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because usually it's all doom and gloom, right? For most predictors.
Yeah.
And they usually...
Very boring.
Yeah.
Yeah, they are, right? Yeah, they are.
Wow.
Man, let me think of it.
It's interesting.
Yeah.
And have you been doing any more dice code divinations or did you have any interesting dice readings besides that?
I did a dice reading today.
Somebody was talking about capturing evil spirits into a glass bottle with honey and vinegar.
And so I did a reading to find out the reason why, you know, glass and honey and vinegar could capture these evil spirits into a glass bottle.
And what the reading said was that several decades ago, some sorcerer cast a spell and placed a curse on these evil spirits.
and said that they could be captured in a glass bottle with honey and vinegar.
Wow.
That's cool.
That's real cool.
I wonder if there's some I wonder if it works.
Yeah.
Well, you know, it's hard to figure out why glass itself would do that, but why honey and vinegar? None of those three things would you know, probably capture a spirit, but a spell that was done in the form of a curse might've been the reason.
Yeah.
That's a really good point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And guys, we're not live on rumble right now because we had to do this on zoom and it was a short amount of time.
Yeah.
I was going to say, is there anything else you've been researching that you kind of want to talk about? We can get into whatever.
Did you get to write up about Disclosure?
Let me look for it right now, because for whatever reason, I might have not got it.
I got 2060 Yantra, and then I got David Wilcock Mystery.
Let me look up Jim Girard and Disclosure, or let me look up your email and
see what came up.
Maybe you could send it to me again? I don't know.
It's not showing up, right? Of course it wouldn't show up, you know, because that's the luck I have.
Yeah, fine.
I'll have to send it again.
Yeah, if you could send it.
It's not even showing up in my AI overview from our emails saying, you know, July 16th, Jim shared a reading from 2060 and then July 16th.
And then the last time anything I got before July 16th was in May.
I got the Astral Shaman and Divine Trickster.
So I never got it.
Yeah, I'll pull it up and I'll send it.
Yantra means visual mantra.
Oh, I love that.
That's cool.
I love that.
That's a really cool.
Yeah.
I love that.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
I just sent it to you in an email.
It's called UFO landing.
I
know.
There it is.
I got it.
Okay.
Okay.
Hold on.
Let me see what's going on here.
Oh, my email is messing with me.
Let me see if I can read it on my on my phone.
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Okay.
I got it here.
I got it.
Okay.
I'm going to try to screen share it so we can, we can all read it.
Give me one second.
Sorry.
Okay.
Share.
it's here yeah just share again it's it's moving in circles this is computer i gotta get fixed oh there we go okay it says uh okay i'm gonna read this guys this is jim's right up on disclosure this should be really interesting ufo landing and massive could provide the solution on many levels the tv series x files is something i've revisited and watched over again several times that's interesting you say that because pink bella aloha is also watching back episodes of X-Files too, and she's finding a lot of disclosure in it too.
But he says, they addressed the human alien hybrid issue that aliens walk amongst us and unseen because they pass for human.
If they were to leak out in an official capacity, the backlash can result in mass panic, lack of trust between individuals and catastrophic destruction, civil war or global war.
If UFOs landed in a massive field with hundreds of thousands of witnesses and cameras and crews, the human-alien hybrid issue could be addressed and act as a buffer to curtail the panic.
If celebrities and world leaders were introduced to the masses in a delicate manner, the public might warm up to the hybrid idea rather than go into a state of shock and become resistant and rebellious.
Someone would have to be picked to represent humanity to the ETs, I would think the land of Da Nang would be the first choice, although I would prefer William Henry for his extraordinary knowledge and level of sincerity.
There would be lots of counter issues coming from numerous sources, despite everything.
The very best strategies would have to be chosen along with the best representatives.
The question arises whether or not a landing of this nature could happen easily and spontaneously without global lockdown.
Doing it with force would attract a forceful of reaction.
Doing it with force would attract a forceful reaction.
I don't know what the disclosure strategy is or if there even is a strategy.
You would have to create more than a buffer, one buffer zone to deal with it, not only with the human-alien hybrid issue, but the issue that all trillions of dollars went to.
When Rumsfeld said, we don't know where those trillions went to, I said, I know where they went, into the power pockets of whoever took it.
They could sugarcoat the issue and claim we needed to build up cosmic defenses in order to deal with the threat of the ET invasion takeover.
That might actually work.
Or they could be bluebeam images in the sky of holograms that stage an event with half real technology.
That's not a new idea or a new unique concept, the one that's been floating around since Wernher von Braun.
Here's the tough issue.
Who is responsible for the one million abduction stories? Someone would have to present an official proof that steers away from the group and points the finger of blame towards Germany in the 1930s.
According to Dan Cooper, interviewed by Laura Eisenhower, Germans beamed down to the White House in 1952 and forced U.S. officials to sign the abduction contract, which it was supposed to be much less and different than what it turned out to be in the end.
And signed under a state of duress, officials can't be held responsible for deliberately initiating the contract or contact.
In the cult classic movie, they live near the end.
The bearded guy in the tunnel down below says to Roddy Piper and the black guy, don't you get it? There's no countries anymore.
They control everything.
There's no good guys.
And then it says, and then there's a remote view of the future 26.
It says there's one remote view of the future that sticks out.
Well, wait.
First of all, before we read the remote view, I want to go over this ET situation.
Do you have any comments on it or is there anywhere you want to talk about? See if there's any comments from the audience.
Yeah.
Not much comments in the chat so far, but yeah.
What do you think, Jim?
My question is what's the plan?
Yeah.
If there is a plan.
Right.
Yeah.
What's the plan for disclosure? How are they going to do it? Yeah.
Yeah.
Is it going to be mass landings?
Yeah.
Is that the plan?
Yeah.
I don't know.
Who's talking about having a plan?
That's a good point.
You know,
I mean, somebody listening, if they want to write in, maybe they have some ideas about how this is going to get done.
Yeah, if you're listening to the audience and you have a comment on, like, how you think we could do this, achieve this disclosure, let us know.
And I'll put your comment up.
And, yeah.
I think what's going to happen is I think if there were to be some kind of contact with an extraterrestrial species, let's say, I think we would need a human coalition.
I don't think it would be just one person.
You know what I mean? I think we should have a human coalition, you know, But of people in our community, by the way, you know, that would that would have to address the aliens, you know, and they would have to pick people from our community.
They would have to pick experiencers because experiencers are more familiar with the alien phenomena, you know.
So I wouldn't just want one
person to represent, you know.
Well, there would be one person, you know, controlling the whole group.
Yeah.
Like a leader.
Yeah, that could happen too.
You know?
Yeah.
I think the problem is, is I think if if they came down and land, and, you know, hundreds of 1000s of people got to see these ETS, like for the first time, they might, they might be so mesmerized by the technology, that they, they wouldn't be addressing the real issues.
Yeah.
Yeah,
absolutely.
So, you know, they're probably mesmerized by time travel and space travel and med beds and all these other things.
But, you know, they don't get to talk about, you know, what happened in the 1930s and 40s with the Germans and what happened with the contracts and with the abductions, where did all the money go? You know, is there a secret space program?
You
know, what are they going to reveal to the public? How are they going to reveal it? Yeah, that's a good point.
How can they reveal it without looking like the bad guys?
Yeah.
Yeah, they are the bad guys at this point, right? They absolutely are.
I mean, but it's not even a question if they are.
It's just like, what did they let happen over the past couple centuries where people were getting abducted and, you know, like... you know, manipulated with, you know, and, and, and, and, yeah, it's, it's, it's horrible, you know, and then they know that the military has been doing it on top of all that too, you know, the military.
Yeah.
In order to have disclosure, they can't come across looking like the bad guys.
Yeah.
So, you know, how long can you dance around in the rain and not get wet?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, that's why I feel like they're trying to put out some kind of like controlled disclosure, you know, something that that doesn't, you know, it doesn't really give any meaning to anything.
It's not it's not providing anything of substance or anything, you know, relevant
even, you know.
It's just blips on a screen.
Have you looked at any of the stuff they put out at war.gov? The UFO site? No, I haven't seen that.
We can look at some of it now.
Let's check some of it out.
Wait, hold on.
I'll show you it.
Hold on.
Let me...
War...
Okay, so yeah, I mean, I figured that'll be something we can do.
So they've come out, Jim, so far, they've come out with four unsealings of...
Here, let me share my screen.
Let me share my screen.
Is this recording? It should be recording.
Yeah, it's recording.
Okay.
Okay.
Share.
You're going to laugh at some of this stuff, Jim.
It's hilarious.
Really, it is.
So this is it, Jim.
It's war.gov slash UFO is the website.
OK, and if you see here, it says the Department of War just released its fourth trance of records under pursue.
The first trance was released May 2026.
Scroll down to see the fourth trance released in July.
When they say trance, they mean set of files.
What they basically released in his files, diagrams like like whatever this is.
I mean, this is an analysis of a flying object incident in the United States.
Nineteen forty nine.
Someone drew that, I guess that I can't believe this.
And then they're saying this is confidential.
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I don't even know what that is.
It looks like a disc, but it looks like it has some kind of cover over it.
You know what I mean? Like some kind of human felt cover over it.
That's what Kenneth Arnold saw.
Wow.
This says this was from 1948.
Project Signed.
This is a unresolved UAP report, Yellow Sea.
It's a six-pointed object.
It says the United States Indo-Pacific Command submitted a report of an unidentified anomalous phenomena to the all-domain anomaly resolution office consisting of 18 seconds of a video footage from an infrared sensor across a U.S. military platform in 2025. you know this is you know this is this is this is hilarious like I just want to show you know like I could go to my friend Priscilla Lapierre from Canada's UFO evidence right now and it would literally put this to shame you know what I mean like she she literally gets I guess that was it from the fourth thing I don't know if I'm missing stuff here or what but you know let me see here
Where's the photos of the secret space program?
I wish we do, right? Yeah.
I'm just looking.
I just clicked on fourth trans.
Okay, here's the fourth tranche of records.
It says, Lewis Alamo's Conference on Aerial Phenomena, 1949.
This is a PDF.
It says this document is a conference held at Los Alamos Silent Epic Laboratory.
Attendees included several element scientists and physicists.
Many of you have contributed to the development of the first nuclear weapons project during
Manhattan.
Wow, this could be interesting.
Can I zoom in on it? Well, I can't.
I can't.
I can't zoom in on it.
I don't know.
I guess that's it
for that.
This is
another PDF file.
This is analysis of flying object in 1949.
Unresolved UAP report, Yellow Sea 2025.
This is a video.
Want to see the video? Check out the video.
This is the disclosure they're giving us, Jim.
That's the thing.
They're just showing photos of UFOs and dead alien bodies.
I thought they were supposed to, but they're not, you know.
It's really, it's really, let me stop sharing.
Let me see if I can pull up something.
Let me, uh, Let me just show you guys something, right? So you guys saw how weak that was from the government, right? Now, if I just go to, like, my friend...
Let me go to YouTube.com.
I just want to make the comparison to show you guys, like, what I'm talking about.
Like, what... what the government has and what my friends like Priscilla has.
She's getting up in Canada.
It's night and day.
It's night and day.
It's night and day.
Let me see if I can get it from here.
She wants to know why they're
not
contacting her too.
You know?
Why? Who's not contacting
her? The aliens.
The aliens aren't...
They're not...
They're not reaching out to her.
They're not...
Are you saying they used to?
No. They're just...
She gets sightings every night.
She gets sightings every night.
Let me see here.
This is, I'll just show you guys her channel here.
Let me see if I can get it up.
This is her channel here.
She has all her UAP stories here.
Here's a green UAP over the horizon.
A lot of this stuff is way better than the government.
Look at these pictures she's posting, guys, down here at the bottom.
Go time.
There's a silver bullet craft.
Way better than anything the government is showing.
Look at that.
You know, way better than anything you just saw on the government site.
You know, it's night and day, actually.
It's actually night and day is compared to compared to like what the government is.
You know, let's look at one of our shorts here.
Look at that, guys.
And she gets this every night.
She gets it, I mean, a lot better than what the government's putting out, right? You know, night and day, night and day.
Here's a green UAP emerald coverment, she says.
So have you interviewed anybody that has a plan?
Not really, not yet, no.
I mean, do you think they're going to land soon, the aliens?
Well, I would think that they would come down in mass landings, and they would probably mesmerize the public with their technology and avoid talking about the issues.
Yeah.
Unless they do talk about the issues.
You know, they could show some celebrities and some global leaders and say, look, here's some celebrities that are hybrids.
They're half human.
And these world leaders are half alien.
Yeah.
So what are you concerned about?
Yeah.
Yeah, right? I mean, that's a good point.
It could, yeah.
Like, no.
Let me just see if we have any comments in the chat.
Was there anything else you wanted to cover, Jim, before we finish up for tonight? Or is there any, we can take questions, I guess?
Yeah, I wanted to show you a sketch I did.
Okay.
Let me see if I can.
Oh, that is so cool.
Whoa, that's amazing.
Holy shit, that's awesome, Jim.
It's going to be turned into a painting and I'm going to donate it to the Hare Krishna temple.
Wow.
That's cool.
That's that.
I mean, you, you have amazing ability, man.
That's a, you have like next level abilities.
Yeah.
I've only been doing enamel paintings for three years.
When did you first start
realizing that
you are
having like a
nap for art? Five years old.
Oh, so you've been doing it that long.
You've been, you know, yeah.
Yeah, I've been doing it my whole life.
Wow.
I started doing heavy detail when I was five.
Yeah.
Wow, that's amazing.
That's a really detailed picture, Jim.
Can we see it one more time? Yeah.
Yeah.
That is amazing.
And all the Hare Krishna devotees know all about it.
The name of this deity is called Shaimasandhara.
And sometimes it's called Radha Shaimasandhara because Radha's name is always mentioned first.
Wow, that's cool.
That is really, wow.
That's interesting.
Congratulations, it's going to be featured at the Hare Krishna temple.
That's awesome.
Yeah, it's going to take six to eight months to finish it.
Wow.
I had to get an overhead projector in order to draw the outline, which is going to take maybe a month or two.
Yeah.
Wow.
Wow, man.
You should live stream it, Jim.
You know how people do that.
They live stream their painting.
You could be painting and you could just have a live stream recording it.
I was thinking of doing something like that, actually.
I
was also thinking about doing a video of having somebody take me you know, drive me to the temple and, you know, having a conversation in the car about, you know, various things.
Yeah, that'd
be cool.
Yeah, that
would be really
cool.
Yeah, like, hell yeah.
Yeah.
Wow, this is awesome.
Yeah.
Which Hare Krishna temple is
it? It's called Ishkan.
International Society for Krishna Consciousness.
It's on 72 Commonwealth Ave in Boston.
Wow.
Yeah, that is cool.
They have a free Sunday feast every Sunday.
Wow.
They feed out 150 free meals every Sunday.
What a nice gesture.
Wow.
That is cool.
That's awesome.
I'm happy for you, man.
That's really cool.
Congratulations.
Thanks.
I know that means a lot to you because I know you're big on the Krishna religion and everything, or not religion, but Krishna spirituality.
Well, I hope they accept it.
I think they will.
I think so, too,
because If it's done well, they could accept it and put it on the wall or whatever.
Jim, you could submit it the way it is now and they would take it.
You could submit it as that sketch and they would take it.
That sketch is immaculate, bro.
Hold that up again.
Guys, look how amazing this is in detail.
That is amazing.
That is so next level.
that Bob Ross don't hold a candle to you, Jim.
Bob Ross does not hold a candle to you.
Seriously.
Bob Ross is rolling over in his grave.
Bob Ross couldn't show you how to do that one.
Yeah.
He definitely, he definitely can't man.
That's next level talent.
You know, I think you could submit it the way it is right now,
you know, for real.
Yeah.
This is the, uh, the, um, I think it's the second, maybe the first or second version.
I drew it twice.
Yeah.
I just want
to get.
Yeah.
I don't, I don't have the other one.
For some reason, I don't have the other one.
Yeah.
So I just wanted to read you some comments from some people in the audience.
So this woman named my first original username says that's beautiful.
She says Shiva would be smiling.
And, uh, and then, uh, uh aaron elizabeth says that is so lovely and then say they both put a heart and uh or yeah so yeah people people really uh water's view has just exclamation points like so um you know i think people people really like your painting or your sketch you know is that a sketch or a painting or what what is that like is that it looks like a painting It's a pencil sketch.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
So that, wow.
Wow.
That's, that's detailed.
Holy shit.
It's an eight by 10 pencil sketch.
And it's going to be transferred to a 36 by 24 painting.
But the painting is going to be done with enamel paints.
And this was done with colored pencil.
Wow.
The effect is going to be completely different.
The colors of the enamel paint are much brighter and much more lively.
Yeah.
Wow.
That's cool.
Yeah.
I can't wait to see it.
So when are you going
to get started on it? The overhead projector is coming in on Monday or Tuesday.
Wow.
You know, there's so much detail in that sketch that I can't draw it by hand onto a large canvas.
I have to use an overhead projector.
Why? What does the overhead projector do? It blows up the image.
Yeah.
Now, what will you do? Will you like do you listen to music or are you listening to like talk radio or something or podcast while you are you are you
paying? I usually I usually put on a video of somebody talking in the background just to sort of distract me while I'm doing artwork.
I do that all the time.
Yeah, I listen to your interviews.
when I'm painting.
Oh, that's cool.
That's really cool.
Yeah.
I didn't know that.
It sort of fills in the void of the emptiness.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I said, a lot of people tell me, a lot of people tell me they listen when they go to bed at night because they like to, they listen to the audio podcast at night for sleep, you know, and they'll just put on the audio podcast and then they can like, you know, binge listen to multiple episodes.
Yeah.
You know, you guys can do that on YouTube, too, if you want.
You can just go under the podcast.
There's a podcast.
It's the Whistleblowers podcast under my playlist.
And you can just access.
I add up new videos to there all the time.
So, you know, yeah.
But, man, this was a great show, Jim.
Yeah, this was awesome.
Yeah.
Is there anything else you wanted to cover before we finish up?
No, I just wanted to say that, you know, before we did this, I was listening to the interview with Jay Widener.
And I was trying to get some ideas from him about disclosure because he's got a lot of good ideas.
Yeah, he does, right? It was a good interview, I think, right? Yeah.
He was interesting, for sure.
He's got a very clear mind and he knows how to explain things.
What do you think happened with David Wilcock? Uh...
I have a feeling that he faked his own death and they took him out of the picture because he went as far as he could possibly go.
And he just needed to exit.
Yeah,
that's a good point.
I don't think he's dead.
Yeah.
That whole thing was staged.
Yeah, because you heard in the last interview, Jay said that he would never use a gun.
He didn't know how to use a gun.
No, he wasn't a gun type at all.
So that's
bizarre, right? He wouldn't even have a gun.
Yeah.
Never mind use a gun, he wouldn't even have one.
Wow.
I know he's like that because I'm like that.
Yeah.
I don't like guns.
Yeah.
I don't like violence either.
Yeah.
Well, so going back to this UFO disclosure, what do you think about the possibility of the aliens making contact this year? Do you think it's possible?
I think it's possible maybe this year or next year.
You think that's what we're leading up to? Well, I think it's possible, but, you know, who's...
Hold on, I gotta connect my battery.
Okay, yeah, my battery got disconnected for some reason.
Yeah, I'd just like to know who's arranging all of these things.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Yeah.
You mean like all the
disclosure releases, you mean? Yeah, I mean, is the government going to make the plans or are they going to compromise with the public? How are they going to do this? I don't know.
It's a good point.
It's a, I don't know.
At this point, I don't think anybody knows what's going on with disclosure.
No, I don't think anybody does.
I think you're right.
Yeah.
Oh
man.
Well, let's wrap it up and see what happens.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
Well, yeah.
Well, I'll see you.
Yeah.
Do you want to tell people where they can find you, Jim? And thanks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You can post my, my link on Facebook.
okay yeah i'll post your facebook and uh yeah and thank you guys and you guys can get jim's books he has two books on amazon and uh they're uh dice code divination and the matrix is a glitch and and people can get a dice code divination from you too right jim yeah yeah okay okay okay we'll reach out to jim guys and thank you guys and have
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