Time Billionaires: Mindset and Time Management for Work & Life
Sep 16, 2026 · 17 min · 6 segments
What if some of your productivity habits are actually wasting your time? In this episode of Time Billionaires, Rebecca Shaddix speaks with Fran Hauser, author of The Myth of the Nice Girl and the…
Fran HauserGuest
Rebecca ShaddixHost
Thanks for joining us, especially to focus on talking about your new book, which I've loved, called 20 Minutes is the New Hour.

And you talk about these time thieves, the four Ps that you call time thieves, which are padding, perfectionism, people-pleasing, and procrastination.

Yeah, so in the book, obviously I talk about how each one of these can be harmful when it comes to our relationship with time.

know when you're in the shower or you're going for a walk and all of a sudden you have that like light bulb moment or that unlock if you're if you're feeling stuck um so sometimes when we like marinate on a decision or you know we just really sit with it for a little bit um it could be a good thing oftentimes my procrastination is i'm afraid of doing a bad job or

afraid of failing so i try to make the situation perfect I'm like, I have to have all the parameters.

And that isn't the motion that actually leads to productivity or moving forward, but it's easy to feel like it's in control because if I'm worried about this big macro outcome I can't control, it's easy to feel like I'm controlling more by increasing the odds of doing more, by perfecting the minutia that doesn't really matter of how caffeinated I am.

Huge, right? Because if you are in that perfecting mode, right, and that feeling of like, I need to be in total control.

I really love this concept of like, um, you know, like I said, just like just starting could just be literally like jotting down a few bullet points and it can be really messy and then you can turn it into something that's more polished, but better to do that than to be stuck in that inertia where there's like literally like no momentum.

Yeah, this through line of control for two of the Ps I think is powerful and definitely where I get stuck in them.

Thanks for joining us, especially to focus on talking about your new book, which I've loved, called 20 Minutes is the New Hour.

And you talk about these time thieves, the four Ps that you call time thieves, which are padding, perfectionism, people-pleasing, and procrastination.

Yeah, so in the book, obviously I talk about how each one of these can be harmful when it comes to our relationship with time.

know when you're in the shower or you're going for a walk and all of a sudden you have that like light bulb moment or that unlock if you're if you're feeling stuck um so sometimes when we like marinate on a decision or you know we just really sit with it for a little bit um it could be a good thing oftentimes my procrastination is i'm afraid of doing a bad job or

afraid of failing so i try to make the situation perfect I'm like, I have to have all the parameters.

And that isn't the motion that actually leads to productivity or moving forward, but it's easy to feel like it's in control because if I'm worried about this big macro outcome I can't control, it's easy to feel like I'm controlling more by increasing the odds of doing more, by perfecting the minutia that doesn't really matter of how caffeinated I am.

Huge, right? Because if you are in that perfecting mode, right, and that feeling of like, I need to be in total control.

I really love this concept of like, um, you know, like I said, just like just starting could just be literally like jotting down a few bullet points and it can be really messy and then you can turn it into something that's more polished, but better to do that than to be stuck in that inertia where there's like literally like no momentum.

Yeah, this through line of control for two of the Ps I think is powerful and definitely where I get stuck in them.
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