Sep 18, 2026 · 35 min · 14 segments
Host Jason Michael Perry sits down with Justin Pierce, co-chair of the Intellectual Property Division at Venable LLP, to talk about who actually owns your ideas once AI is involved, and why the answer…
So there's a similar, I'm going to just talk about a few different cases here because there's so many of these cases that, like you said, hundreds of cases that are very similar.
It means it's like a doorway to access data or information from another company.
What they've created is a system that allows you to get the search results that Google has.
But they're scanning all of Google's search results and generating that response.
And Google says this is against their terms of service or it's against the rules, essentially.
And I find this to be an interesting parallel to this concept of distillation.
But this is interesting parallels, I think, in terms of what is legal here and what's okay.
it is early but obviously there's a lot of activity around this your question pulls together a few different instances and it's a good question because it really shows the breadth of how entities whether it's companies whether it's individuals can have entirely different views on the same kind of technological transformation or technological process and whether it's right wrong is this fair is it not fair So on this issue, and it kind of relates to some degree to both aspects of the scenarios you brought up, of being able to access a service electronically, use it in some way or access content, and then put that, you know, search results out, put answers out, put out products that are kind of based on this thing that you accessed in this new way.
That oftentimes we're finding is governed by the terms of use agreements or maybe contracts that have been signed.
There's a whole debate still that goes back to our internet days as to whether when you click the terms of use or the I agree, does that really bind you to all the different rules and prohibitions that are on a particular website? But it's not too different from that.
In many of these instances that you talked about, And one of the company's allegations or at least claims will almost always be based on the fact that, hey, you, the second comer or this different service officer offer came in, somehow availed yourself of my services.
And it's against the normal terms of use that I have for all customers who agree to use it.
And that often ends up being the basis, depending on how well and how clear and how strong those terms of use are.
So there's a similar, I'm going to just talk about a few different cases here because there's so many of these cases that, like you said, hundreds of cases that are very similar.
It means it's like a doorway to access data or information from another company.
What they've created is a system that allows you to get the search results that Google has.
But they're scanning all of Google's search results and generating that response.
And Google says this is against their terms of service or it's against the rules, essentially.
And I find this to be an interesting parallel to this concept of distillation.
But this is interesting parallels, I think, in terms of what is legal here and what's okay.
it is early but obviously there's a lot of activity around this your question pulls together a few different instances and it's a good question because it really shows the breadth of how entities whether it's companies whether it's individuals can have entirely different views on the same kind of technological transformation or technological process and whether it's right wrong is this fair is it not fair So on this issue, and it kind of relates to some degree to both aspects of the scenarios you brought up, of being able to access a service electronically, use it in some way or access content, and then put that, you know, search results out, put answers out, put out products that are kind of based on this thing that you accessed in this new way.
That oftentimes we're finding is governed by the terms of use agreements or maybe contracts that have been signed.
There's a whole debate still that goes back to our internet days as to whether when you click the terms of use or the I agree, does that really bind you to all the different rules and prohibitions that are on a particular website? But it's not too different from that.
In many of these instances that you talked about, And one of the company's allegations or at least claims will almost always be based on the fact that, hey, you, the second comer or this different service officer offer came in, somehow availed yourself of my services.
And it's against the normal terms of use that I have for all customers who agree to use it.
And that often ends up being the basis, depending on how well and how clear and how strong those terms of use are.
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