Lisa AppeloGuest
Laura L. SmithHost
And Lisa, what are the stages of grief? Can you just say them out loud so someone who might be grieving might understand? Gosh, I'm actually feeling or experiencing that.

And the woman who wrote, the scientist or the PhD who originally wrote about it, was really writing about dying patients and what she was observing in those who were dying, not those who were left after grief.

So we apply it to everything because it just feels, you know what? Here's the thing.

And we would like to be able to just box it in and say, give expectations to ourselves and to those around us.

Instead of entering into that really untidy place where somebody is is might go through a stage they might be stay in a stage for a long time I know anger is a stage and I never felt angry so resolution and acceptance I think are part of the stages that they talk about and I do agree that it's that we want to see somebody on in an arc We want to see somebody moving through.

And yes, we would like to have these neat little folders we could put it in, but that's not life.

How can you turn to God in the midst of that? And one, how can you tell people you can, but also in your own experience, you said originally you're going through the motions.

How did you turn to God in that? And where did he show up for you? That's a great question.

And Lisa, what are the stages of grief? Can you just say them out loud so someone who might be grieving might understand? Gosh, I'm actually feeling or experiencing that.

And the woman who wrote, the scientist or the PhD who originally wrote about it, was really writing about dying patients and what she was observing in those who were dying, not those who were left after grief.

So we apply it to everything because it just feels, you know what? Here's the thing.

And we would like to be able to just box it in and say, give expectations to ourselves and to those around us.

Instead of entering into that really untidy place where somebody is is might go through a stage they might be stay in a stage for a long time I know anger is a stage and I never felt angry so resolution and acceptance I think are part of the stages that they talk about and I do agree that it's that we want to see somebody on in an arc We want to see somebody moving through.

And yes, we would like to have these neat little folders we could put it in, but that's not life.

How can you turn to God in the midst of that? And one, how can you tell people you can, but also in your own experience, you said originally you're going through the motions.

How did you turn to God in that? And where did he show up for you? That's a great question.
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