Jun 26, 2026 · 57 min · 15 segments
In this episode, Adam and Amy are joined by "veteran" Sarah Ledger. Recorded just weeks before she is due to retire, Adam and Amy grill her on what's changed over the 40 years she's been teaching…
Sarah LedgerGuest
Adam BoxerHostAmy ForresterHost
okay guys sorry guys yeah no no no we're just i'm enjoying the banter but oh hello my daughter's here second night sorry good night hi

okay lovely bye off you go sweetie that's ironic because like i tried to bring things back into focus and i was immediately distracted Anyway, so we do have some questions that we want to ask you, Sarah.

So I'm going to, I think I'm going to have a bit of a difficult job tonight keeping the two of you on track, but I will do what I can.

What are the major changes you've seen over that time? Because normally when we have guests and they've been around for a while, we're normally talking 15 years.

I mean, you were allowed, you had to kind of make friends with the photocopying or the bander lady to be allowed reprography, so you couldn't just, worksheets just weren't just wound off.

I mean, I was in right from the beginning of the national curriculum and GCSEs, and they were all new things.

I can remember, I've thrown it away and I wish I hadn't, My training notes, it says it might be a good idea to plan lessons ahead.

And one of the things that I keep hearing, there's an awful lot of doom about what's going on in schools.

I genuinely believe that schools are an awful lot safer than they ever have been.

you know, getting your head kicked in on the yard, that happened twice a week.

okay guys sorry guys yeah no no no we're just i'm enjoying the banter but oh hello my daughter's here second night sorry good night hi

okay lovely bye off you go sweetie that's ironic because like i tried to bring things back into focus and i was immediately distracted Anyway, so we do have some questions that we want to ask you, Sarah.

So I'm going to, I think I'm going to have a bit of a difficult job tonight keeping the two of you on track, but I will do what I can.

What are the major changes you've seen over that time? Because normally when we have guests and they've been around for a while, we're normally talking 15 years.

I mean, you were allowed, you had to kind of make friends with the photocopying or the bander lady to be allowed reprography, so you couldn't just, worksheets just weren't just wound off.

I mean, I was in right from the beginning of the national curriculum and GCSEs, and they were all new things.

I can remember, I've thrown it away and I wish I hadn't, My training notes, it says it might be a good idea to plan lessons ahead.

And one of the things that I keep hearing, there's an awful lot of doom about what's going on in schools.

I genuinely believe that schools are an awful lot safer than they ever have been.

you know, getting your head kicked in on the yard, that happened twice a week.
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