The Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast
Oct 6, 2026 · 36 min · 9 segments
Send us Fan Mail **Wholehearted Enneagram: A Year Through the Types | Type Three | Episode 1 of 4** What does it look like to be the most capable…
Amy WicksHostDeanna SudomGuestBut I think interestingly, the three's core desire is to feel genuinely valuable.
And it's not for what they've done, but for who they are, which kind of flies in the face of often being known as the achiever.
What? In that amount of time? And your brain wrapped around that and made it happen.

I have had a couple of gals who will be on the podcast this month who just went through the wholehearted certification.

So they're officially wholehearted coaches on top of some of other certification training they've done.

Every meeting, they'd come in with what they have done and how they've moved forward and the doors that they've been knocking on.

Though I think that's sometimes hard, right? Because there is a desire to show their competence.

So give us a little peek behind what it is that they project based versus what they are maybe feeling.
Well, I think when the achievement stops, it can feel really strangely quiet, like it's a tricky place for them to navigate.
So it might not feel authentic to them or in a place where they project all of this achievement and goodness and pouring things out, but inside there might be still a sense of worthlessness, like they're not... accomplishing enough they're not doing enough things so I think that probably yeah what drives them I think that is more it looks like ambition but maybe feels like survival that's what they've learned to do

I think I almost picture Constantly climbing out of a sense of failure, especially if things aren't panning out how they set a goal on or based on how much effort they put out.

And I just have often seen threes kind of pull their – It's like they're trying to get above, almost as if they're swimming or drowning in a sea of failure all the time, which is a lot of the narrative for a three, even though some of us would never call it failure or deem it that or understand how much of that feeling is there.
But I think interestingly, the three's core desire is to feel genuinely valuable.
And it's not for what they've done, but for who they are, which kind of flies in the face of often being known as the achiever.
What? In that amount of time? And your brain wrapped around that and made it happen.

I have had a couple of gals who will be on the podcast this month who just went through the wholehearted certification.

So they're officially wholehearted coaches on top of some of other certification training they've done.

Every meeting, they'd come in with what they have done and how they've moved forward and the doors that they've been knocking on.

Though I think that's sometimes hard, right? Because there is a desire to show their competence.

So give us a little peek behind what it is that they project based versus what they are maybe feeling.
Well, I think when the achievement stops, it can feel really strangely quiet, like it's a tricky place for them to navigate.
So it might not feel authentic to them or in a place where they project all of this achievement and goodness and pouring things out, but inside there might be still a sense of worthlessness, like they're not... accomplishing enough they're not doing enough things so I think that probably yeah what drives them I think that is more it looks like ambition but maybe feels like survival that's what they've learned to do

I think I almost picture Constantly climbing out of a sense of failure, especially if things aren't panning out how they set a goal on or based on how much effort they put out.

And I just have often seen threes kind of pull their – It's like they're trying to get above, almost as if they're swimming or drowning in a sea of failure all the time, which is a lot of the narrative for a three, even though some of us would never call it failure or deem it that or understand how much of that feeling is there.
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