How Solstice Health Is Transforming Wellness and Direct Primary Care

All right.

So now let's shift gears.

Where do you see employer decisions hurting patients without anyone realizing?

There's a lot of different areas.

I think that I would say probably fragmentation of their plan design and the way that they structure their benefits is probably one of the most significant areas.

When you have brokers, advisors, TPAs, et cetera, et cetera, all creating this plan design and they're not asking the physicians who are actually caring for the patients, it's You get a lot of fragmentation because everybody wants the new shiny object, right? There's a new app or there's a new wellness program.

There's a new whatever, whatever you want to put on it.

And it's none of those things are coordinated on the back end.

They're just not.

There's no way to coordinate all of those different pieces of the puzzle that they try to put together.

It looks sexy on paper.

Right.

And when you talk to the executives, it's like, OK, we put this plan together.

It looks amazing.

We've got we've got mental health over here in this category and we've got wellness over here and we've got, you know, diabetes management over here.

It's like, why do you need any of those things when you could just get good primary care? If you had time associated with that primary care, which you get through direct primary care to be able to then.

pull all those things together and it's no longer fragmented.

So I think that's really probably one of the larger issues that we see, because I always tell people all the time there's, and I feel bad to some extent, but not really.

Like all of the wellness programs that everybody implements, they suck.

They're totally worthless.

Because you cannot tell me that by stepping on a scale, measuring your hemoglobin A1C, and then quitting smoking a week before you take your cotinine test, all so that you can get a reduction or some sort of bonus in your payroll.

It's ridiculous.

That's not wellness.

Wellness is being at an ideal weight, eating organic whole foods, and then participating in some sort of exercise-like activity.

And what would you change if, let's assume that if employers talk to doctors before designing these plans?