Peter Kelly-DetwilerGuestEricHost
I'm sixty-five years old and spent more than half of that time now, thirty-five years in, in electric power markets.

Uh, before that, I was like developing country economics in places like Mogadishu and Accra, Ghana, and so on.

But ultimately got into power in the early nineties and then got into competitive power after spending a few years in Chile on efficiency projects.

And, you know, in parts of this country, you can buy and sell electricity, so individual customers and companies can buy power.

So I got into that game, and then ultimately I started getting involved in paying customers not to use power during periods of scarcity, during periods of peak demand.

And so my team and I, we built the second-largest virtual power plants in the world.

We have the equivalent of almost two nuclear plants of capacity from customers.

We could just call them up and say, or text them or email, "Shut off within the next half hour.

We need you to reduce consumption to keep the grid stable right now." So I got to mess around with all kinds of different things.

And then twelve... well, thirteen years ago, I went off on my own and just started doing all kinds of researching and, and trying to figure out how the grid really works.

I'm sixty-five years old and spent more than half of that time now, thirty-five years in, in electric power markets.

Uh, before that, I was like developing country economics in places like Mogadishu and Accra, Ghana, and so on.

But ultimately got into power in the early nineties and then got into competitive power after spending a few years in Chile on efficiency projects.

And, you know, in parts of this country, you can buy and sell electricity, so individual customers and companies can buy power.

So I got into that game, and then ultimately I started getting involved in paying customers not to use power during periods of scarcity, during periods of peak demand.

And so my team and I, we built the second-largest virtual power plants in the world.

We have the equivalent of almost two nuclear plants of capacity from customers.

We could just call them up and say, or text them or email, "Shut off within the next half hour.

We need you to reduce consumption to keep the grid stable right now." So I got to mess around with all kinds of different things.

And then twelve... well, thirteen years ago, I went off on my own and just started doing all kinds of researching and, and trying to figure out how the grid really works.
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