Michael Zeuner: The Making of an Integrated Advisor

**Private Wealth Podcast — Michael Zeuner, WE Family Offices** **Episode summary** Host Joe Reilly speaks with Michael Zeuner, managing partner at WE Family Offices and co-founder and board member of the Ultra High Net Worth Institute. Michael traces his career from consulting at Andersen Consulting and Booz Allen through senior roles at Chase Manhattan, JP Morgan Private Bank and Gen Spring Family Offices, to co-founding WE Family Offices in 2013. Along the way he unpacks the industry's shift from a supply-side, product-manufacturing model to a demand-side, advice-led one, the emergence of open architecture, and what it takes to build a sustainable, scalable advisory business without losing the intimacy that ultra high net worth families expect. He closes with reflections on talent development, common mistakes families make after a liquidity event, and how AI is reshaping business development in the wealth management sector. **In this episode** - Early life and education, and a formative mentorship at Shawmut Bank that shaped his approach to client work - Foundational lessons from his consulting years about advice being disconnected from product economics - Meeting Mel Lagamasino at Chase Manhattan Private Bank and the early experiments that became open architecture - Why JetBlue became an internal reference point for a demand-driven business model - The move to Gen Spring Family Offices, its growth through acquisition, and hard-won lessons on cultural alignment in M&A - Partnering with Pat Soldano (Simric) and Santi Uyoha (TBK) and how those relationships shaped the retainer-fee, non-discretionary model - Founding WE Family Offices in 2013 on flat fees, non-discretionary advice and keeping control with the family - Where scale genuinely helps (reporting, technology, manager due diligence) versus where it does not (the advisory relationship itself) - Building and retaining advisory talent, including why the first two to three years are the highest turnover risk - Common mistakes families make after a major liquidity event - How AI-driven search is changing inbound business development for boutique advisory firms **Guest** Michael Zeuner is a managing partner at WE Family Offices and a co-founder and board member of the Ultra High Net Worth Institute. He previously served as senior executive partner at Gen Spring Family Offices and as Global Head of Wealth Solutions at JP Morgan Private Bank. He holds an MBA from the University of Chicago Booth School of Business and a BA from Brandeis University, and hosts the Wealth Enterprise Briefing Podcast. **Host** Joe Reilly, head of Circulus Group, a family office network based in Greenwich, Connecticut. Find out more about The Institute here - https://www.uhnwinstitute.org/