Sep 2, 2026 · 51 min · 13 segments
What if the fastest way to grow was walking away from $15 million in sales? In this episode of The Story of a Brand Show, host…
Jason BurkeGuest
Rose HamiltonHost
You know, that's the trap, isn't it? Because none of the decisions sounds irrational in the moment when there's growth opportunity.

And personally, I've watched good companies get diluted one reasonable yes at a time.

Complexity almost never walks into the room and introduces itself as complexity.

so when did you realize all of those individually responsible yeses or reasonable, I should say, yeses, had collectively become a problem and what was the real cost of that complexity

i i couldn't even add up the real cost of it but it was years and it was probably years of time in millions of dollars um if i had to guess i'm probably afraid i'm actually afraid to go add it up and really look at it but it was years and millions how about that um you know i think it really hit us coming out of covid it was you know in the in the height of covid fortunately for us we had We had two parts of our business.

So it, you know, we saw the business kind of have these like natural macro trends that impacted it.

We had to get really, really real with ourselves and go, okay, what, what, what is happening in the business that like, what's, what's like an enduring trend versus like what was like this like momentary black swan event driven trend that's probably not real.

So I think coming out of COVID, looking at all the categories we were in, all of the products we were in, you know, serving all of these different consumer occasions, we had to really like humble ourselves a bit and say, okay, I know that...

And for me, it hurt because there were great products in other categories that we...

I mean, our buffalo sauce... still to this day, I would argue, is the cleanest, best tasting buffalo sauce that ever hit the market.

There was an argument that we could have just created a sauce brand and focused there.

You know, that's the trap, isn't it? Because none of the decisions sounds irrational in the moment when there's growth opportunity.

And personally, I've watched good companies get diluted one reasonable yes at a time.

Complexity almost never walks into the room and introduces itself as complexity.

so when did you realize all of those individually responsible yeses or reasonable, I should say, yeses, had collectively become a problem and what was the real cost of that complexity

i i couldn't even add up the real cost of it but it was years and it was probably years of time in millions of dollars um if i had to guess i'm probably afraid i'm actually afraid to go add it up and really look at it but it was years and millions how about that um you know i think it really hit us coming out of covid it was you know in the in the height of covid fortunately for us we had We had two parts of our business.

So it, you know, we saw the business kind of have these like natural macro trends that impacted it.

We had to get really, really real with ourselves and go, okay, what, what, what is happening in the business that like, what's, what's like an enduring trend versus like what was like this like momentary black swan event driven trend that's probably not real.

So I think coming out of COVID, looking at all the categories we were in, all of the products we were in, you know, serving all of these different consumer occasions, we had to really like humble ourselves a bit and say, okay, I know that...

And for me, it hurt because there were great products in other categories that we...

I mean, our buffalo sauce... still to this day, I would argue, is the cleanest, best tasting buffalo sauce that ever hit the market.

There was an argument that we could have just created a sauce brand and focused there.
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