The Security Podcast of Silicon Valley
Oct 6, 2026 · 29 min · 15 segments
If your security budget goes almost entirely to keeping attackers out, Yair Grindlinger thinks you're underfunding the part that's becoming more and more urgent. The co-founder and chief executive of…
I think with surf, and I think in our day and age, the most challenging and interesting thing that we're all trying to figure out is this thing move faster than anything we've ever experienced.
Nothing in the past in our lifetime moved as fast as this thing moves right now.
You know, as entrepreneurs in cybersecurity that work with enterprises trying to help them protect, it's very difficult to understand.
It's almost easy to understand what, to imagine maybe what's going to happen in five years.
But who cares about five years right now? How do I protect myself and what's the right priorities and how do I think about it right now? Because the speed of the threat, like what we've seen with Hugging Face in the last few weeks wasn't unimaginable.
It was imaginable, but I don't think many of us imagine it as something that already happens right now.
And I think that is the hardest thing, is to figure out what is relevant already right now and you have to protect versus what's going to happen in a year from now.
And how do you figure out, like, you know, I read somebody wrote a post recently that, you know, we all understand that X years from now, when all the code in the world will be refactored and rewrite by some sort of future code generating agents that will write flawless code with no vulnerabilities, then we'll be in a great shape.
But what happens until then? And that is the thing I think I'm mostly, you know, as an industry, we all try to figure out and, you know, and help companies deal with.
I think with surf, and I think in our day and age, the most challenging and interesting thing that we're all trying to figure out is this thing move faster than anything we've ever experienced.
Nothing in the past in our lifetime moved as fast as this thing moves right now.
You know, as entrepreneurs in cybersecurity that work with enterprises trying to help them protect, it's very difficult to understand.
It's almost easy to understand what, to imagine maybe what's going to happen in five years.
But who cares about five years right now? How do I protect myself and what's the right priorities and how do I think about it right now? Because the speed of the threat, like what we've seen with Hugging Face in the last few weeks wasn't unimaginable.
It was imaginable, but I don't think many of us imagine it as something that already happens right now.
And I think that is the hardest thing, is to figure out what is relevant already right now and you have to protect versus what's going to happen in a year from now.
And how do you figure out, like, you know, I read somebody wrote a post recently that, you know, we all understand that X years from now, when all the code in the world will be refactored and rewrite by some sort of future code generating agents that will write flawless code with no vulnerabilities, then we'll be in a great shape.
But what happens until then? And that is the thing I think I'm mostly, you know, as an industry, we all try to figure out and, you know, and help companies deal with.
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