The Secret Marketing Diary of Personal Brands
Oct 7, 2026 · 34 min · 11 segments
500 women in one room. Speakers who were not there to perform. They were there to tell the truth. I just got back from two days at Called to Lead, THE premier women's leadership event hosted by Kelly…
Ginna TassanelliHost
Okay, so I wanna start with something that I think gets really underestimated in a world where everything is online, everything is virtual, everything is a Zoom call or a podcast episode or a DM conversation.

There is something that happens when you physically are in the room with people who are operating at a level that you want to reach, something that doesn't happen on a screen.

This is something that you can't download or stream and watch later, and I call that the proximity effect.

This was a premier women's leadership event created by Kelly Roach and Sandy Glant.

Five hundred plus women in one room, speakers who were not there to be polished or to perform.

Like, I literally, at the time that I'm recording this, I just got back less than an hour ago from day two, and I'm like, "This is what today's episode is going to be about." So I wanna do two things.

I wanna talk about the real cost and the real value of investing in proximity, and I wanna walk you through some teachable moments that I took out of the room.

When was the last time you invested in being in a room? Not watching a replay, okay? I'm not talking about, like, investing in the virtual recording or investing in the live virtual stream of events like this.

So not attending virtually with your camera off while you've answered emails, like actually being in the room, present, uncomfortable sometimes, in proximity with people who are already where you want to go.

It gives you the kind of clarity that comes from being surrounded with people who are not talking about whether it is possible.

And the thing about proximity that most people underestimate, you do not just learn from the speaker on stage.

You learn from the person sitting next to you on your right or on your left.

Okay, so I wanna start with something that I think gets really underestimated in a world where everything is online, everything is virtual, everything is a Zoom call or a podcast episode or a DM conversation.

There is something that happens when you physically are in the room with people who are operating at a level that you want to reach, something that doesn't happen on a screen.

This is something that you can't download or stream and watch later, and I call that the proximity effect.

This was a premier women's leadership event created by Kelly Roach and Sandy Glant.

Five hundred plus women in one room, speakers who were not there to be polished or to perform.

Like, I literally, at the time that I'm recording this, I just got back less than an hour ago from day two, and I'm like, "This is what today's episode is going to be about." So I wanna do two things.

I wanna talk about the real cost and the real value of investing in proximity, and I wanna walk you through some teachable moments that I took out of the room.

When was the last time you invested in being in a room? Not watching a replay, okay? I'm not talking about, like, investing in the virtual recording or investing in the live virtual stream of events like this.

So not attending virtually with your camera off while you've answered emails, like actually being in the room, present, uncomfortable sometimes, in proximity with people who are already where you want to go.

It gives you the kind of clarity that comes from being surrounded with people who are not talking about whether it is possible.

And the thing about proximity that most people underestimate, you do not just learn from the speaker on stage.

You learn from the person sitting next to you on your right or on your left.
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