S3E6: The Third Turn Every Leader Eventually Faces with Mark Vincent

It's, it's such important work.

And, uh, What I find amazing about that is how many people don't think about this sort of thing, right? So, you know, and I think part of the problem may be, you know, it's really hard to imagine yourself in the future leaving the thing that you absolutely love doing that you're really good at you know it's a very difficult thing to imagine so people avoid thinking about it so how how is it that you are able to find people a who who think about this or b like how can we encourage people to think about this because I think it's important work and we people don't think about it

Well, let's just start with your first question there.

The percentage of people who are natural entrepreneurs, natural visionaries, that's a small percentage to begin with.

And three-fourths, four-fifths almost of the people who enter the workforce aren't going to be in that kind of a position.

They're going to be frontline workers.

They're going to be very content if they're well-paid, if they've got a good working environment, good work culture, to be the customer service reps, to be the salesperson, to be the technician, right? Among them are a group of people who always say there's something more here or I could fix this or what if we tried it that way? And they can't get settled until they're in a spot where they give that a try.

And they're more content to take a risk than they are to keep things as they are.

And it's among that group of people that you find those who will actually have that kind of a conversation or who are more open to it.

However, Louisa, I want to touch on one thing you said that most people don't think about it.

I agree.

And what I'm going to say next will sound like I disagree.

People have a thought about it.

And the

thought is, I will think about this later.

Yeah.

So that's their thought.

I'll think about this later.

I'll deal with this later when I can.

But the key transition is to see this as not a luxury.

not a perk, not something you get to do if you succeed.

It is a key ingredient to success to keep that long-term in front of you, to keep the stewardship notionality in the center of your thinking that I will hand this to someone, that my success is tied to being able to hand it to someone or the value that I'm putting in it, I will not be able to get out.

So that is a key aspect just to keep in mind is that the first thought is to banish the thinking.

And so to get it into the present really matters for the success we want to build now.

Yeah.