Aug 10, 2026 · 33 min · 11 segments
*Content note: This episode includes a description of family violence during a period of acute distress for a young person.* Frank is the first grandfather to share his story on The School Can't…
They would have carers who changed on a regular basis, who, who had no appreciation and no education in the... of, of what to do.
They'd not been trained in this field at all.
They were often teachers who were distressed themselves in terms of workplace stress, and therefore they were put into these carer roles because they were out of the classroom.
What was progressively becoming obvious with my granddaughter was any degree of uncertainty or change was completely disconcerting for her.
So it was a, a school that was being renovated.
She'd go to school, and, and the lockers had been changed overnight in terms of where they were lo- uh, placed, and therefore to try and find her locker just sent her into a spin, and she'd walk out the gate and come... walk home.
And particularly in high school, I think there's always a lot of change, isn't there?
Yeah.
Yeah
Yeah, that's right.
And she couldn't stand the noise.
She couldn't stand the- The disruptiveness of, um, the other kids.
She was very impatient with them not wanting to learn where she wanted to learn.
She was very keen on learning.
She's a good learner, quite disciplined about her learning, and skilled in mathematics particularly.
So she wanted to achieve things and demonstrate that she was part of something by being able to demonstrate that she was good an- and, and capable, you know? When we took her to the, the Catholic girls school, they, they were more tolerant, but they treated it as a health problem rather than an education problem or a context problem.
In other words, the school hadn't changed.
They thought that the problem was in the child.
Yes.
Yeah.
Which in part it was, clearly.
But they put her into a separate room on her own to do work on her own, which didn't solve anything.
They would have carers who changed on a regular basis, who, who had no appreciation and no education in the... of, of what to do.
They'd not been trained in this field at all.
They were often teachers who were distressed themselves in terms of workplace stress, and therefore they were put into these carer roles because they were out of the classroom.
What was progressively becoming obvious with my granddaughter was any degree of uncertainty or change was completely disconcerting for her.
So it was a, a school that was being renovated.
She'd go to school, and, and the lockers had been changed overnight in terms of where they were lo- uh, placed, and therefore to try and find her locker just sent her into a spin, and she'd walk out the gate and come... walk home.
And particularly in high school, I think there's always a lot of change, isn't there?
Yeah.
Yeah
Yeah, that's right.
And she couldn't stand the noise.
She couldn't stand the- The disruptiveness of, um, the other kids.
She was very impatient with them not wanting to learn where she wanted to learn.
She was very keen on learning.
She's a good learner, quite disciplined about her learning, and skilled in mathematics particularly.
So she wanted to achieve things and demonstrate that she was part of something by being able to demonstrate that she was good an- and, and capable, you know? When we took her to the, the Catholic girls school, they, they were more tolerant, but they treated it as a health problem rather than an education problem or a context problem.
In other words, the school hadn't changed.
They thought that the problem was in the child.
Yes.
Yeah.
Which in part it was, clearly.
But they put her into a separate room on her own to do work on her own, which didn't solve anything.
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