The SaaS Podcast - AI, Growth & Product-Market Fit for SaaS Founders
Sep 17, 2026 · 40 min · 13 segments
**He never bought a keyword, never ran content marketing, and the big outbound sales force he tried did not work.** Rodney Robinson still grew TabaPay to $100 million in revenue, almost entirely…
Rodney RobinsonGuestOmer KhanHostAnd I think people listening to this might be like, what the heck? Like you, you went and bought a bank.
Um, and you know, you and I were talking earlier and, and despite that and, and the, the, the announcement, um, For me, the real story is that you started with zero, essentially a seed round, got this to over $100 million before any of this happened.
Obviously, with your previous startup and selling that to MasterCard, some people listening might think, well, Rodney had an easy ride.
And so today I want to make sure that we help share the story of what it actually took for you to build the business and all the ups and downs, not some of the ups and downs that you sort of experienced along the way.
So you, you, you decide, well, first of all, tell me like, why did you believe that this was the problem worth solving? Like, yeah, you're hearing your customers talking about it, but like what, what was about this? Like MasterCard didn't want to touch this.
There was already somebody handling kind of a partial solution and, So what drove you towards saying I'm going to invest the next 10 years of my life in this?

So human beings have two ears and one mouth and they should listen twice as much as they speak.

And so listening to your customers is the most important part of, I think, figuring out the big problem to solve.

If you look at our businesses that we serve, a lot of them that are regulated businesses.

10 years ago, we solved instant push payments, instant money to U.S. bank accounts.
And I think people listening to this might be like, what the heck? Like you, you went and bought a bank.
Um, and you know, you and I were talking earlier and, and despite that and, and the, the, the announcement, um, For me, the real story is that you started with zero, essentially a seed round, got this to over $100 million before any of this happened.
Obviously, with your previous startup and selling that to MasterCard, some people listening might think, well, Rodney had an easy ride.
And so today I want to make sure that we help share the story of what it actually took for you to build the business and all the ups and downs, not some of the ups and downs that you sort of experienced along the way.
So you, you, you decide, well, first of all, tell me like, why did you believe that this was the problem worth solving? Like, yeah, you're hearing your customers talking about it, but like what, what was about this? Like MasterCard didn't want to touch this.
There was already somebody handling kind of a partial solution and, So what drove you towards saying I'm going to invest the next 10 years of my life in this?

So human beings have two ears and one mouth and they should listen twice as much as they speak.

And so listening to your customers is the most important part of, I think, figuring out the big problem to solve.

If you look at our businesses that we serve, a lot of them that are regulated businesses.

10 years ago, we solved instant push payments, instant money to U.S. bank accounts.
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