Mikey MioduskiGuest
Jessica MalnikHost
Is that kind of been kind of your, when you kind of made this decision to kind of figure this out of the, out of kind of the day to day of the agency, was that always from the get go to kind of grow story camp and how's that going?

Cause, um, I, yeah, just like insanely more and more nerdy about presentation, communication skills.

You know, like you get into it, you're an introverted designer who suddenly accidentally is running an agency, you know, and is running sales and is like thinks doing sales is creepy and cringy.

And so over time, hanging out at the barbershop, seeing great speakers do their thing, my clients, I was like, man, I should get better at this too.

And so we started podcasting and that forced me to, I'm going to read this book.

And so that I consider like an independent study in its own to master this communication, public speaking stuff.

But I get more, like I get a real kick out of like, I was like, whoa, I love this book.

I can't believe I can reach out to the author and see if they want to come in and like do a workshop.

And yeah, so for me, it's almost like a really cool opportunity because I just get so much like being face-to-face.

I don't know if you've heard of her, but she was like a TED Cambridge, Massachusetts, like strategist for a long time.

So she's coaching these brilliant scientists on how to sound more like a human.

And so like, I got a lot out of the book, but I got so much more out of spending like four hours face to face with Tamsyn in her workshop.

And so for me, also a dude who's sick of zoom meetings, like, and I will never, I just don't see myself ever doing a virtual conference or going to one.

I miss being with people and like, So part of story camp is like I want to do in-person stuff.

Is that kind of been kind of your, when you kind of made this decision to kind of figure this out of the, out of kind of the day to day of the agency, was that always from the get go to kind of grow story camp and how's that going?

Cause, um, I, yeah, just like insanely more and more nerdy about presentation, communication skills.

You know, like you get into it, you're an introverted designer who suddenly accidentally is running an agency, you know, and is running sales and is like thinks doing sales is creepy and cringy.

And so over time, hanging out at the barbershop, seeing great speakers do their thing, my clients, I was like, man, I should get better at this too.

And so we started podcasting and that forced me to, I'm going to read this book.

And so that I consider like an independent study in its own to master this communication, public speaking stuff.

But I get more, like I get a real kick out of like, I was like, whoa, I love this book.

I can't believe I can reach out to the author and see if they want to come in and like do a workshop.

And yeah, so for me, it's almost like a really cool opportunity because I just get so much like being face-to-face.

I don't know if you've heard of her, but she was like a TED Cambridge, Massachusetts, like strategist for a long time.

So she's coaching these brilliant scientists on how to sound more like a human.

And so like, I got a lot out of the book, but I got so much more out of spending like four hours face to face with Tamsyn in her workshop.

And so for me, also a dude who's sick of zoom meetings, like, and I will never, I just don't see myself ever doing a virtual conference or going to one.

I miss being with people and like, So part of story camp is like I want to do in-person stuff.
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