Aug 25, 2026 · 22 min · 7 segments
Episode #444 Weak Masculinity and Claims of Abuse Chris Moles
Chris MolesHost
When I hear you talk about servant leadership, honestly, it sounds a bit like soft complementarianism or feminism light.

How is your view of intervention different from just letting the modern culture dictate how a man should act? What a great question.

Again, this one has some assumptions in it, but I think the question genuinely assumes that kind of mainstream evangelicalism or mainstream modern complementarianism, however you want to word it, has become too weak.

This is actually a pretty common conversation that's happening, especially in the biblical counseling world, as you'll hear kind of this overlap between male weakness or I don't even know what the word is, that masculinity has become weak and therapeutic.

And that's probably where we're hearing language we're hearing in the biblical counseling world.

So the antidote, the response then, and I don't want to be too stereotypical or caricature this too badly, but The antidote or the response is to the cultural decay, and this is kind of the language, and I'll distinguish in a minute where I'm coming from and why it's a foreign conversation to me and a difficult conversation for me.

But the antidote or response to the cultural decay is aggression, like an uncompromising pushback of male rule, women's submission, patriarchy, which is becoming more in vogue again.

And it seems that this is where the heart of a question like this is being built.

Full disclosure, this was never a conversation that I was involved in until recently, to be quite honest with you.

I knew that there were kind of distinctions, categories, conversations about male leadership, female submission, husbands, wives, church governance.

But to be completely honest with you, listener, and this is I'm trying to be as sincere as I can.

Prior to my arrival at what was then Cedarville College in the mid-90s, I probably had never heard the term complementarian or egalitarian.

I hadn't heard a lot of the terminology in the liberal modernist, postmodernist debate, quite frankly.

When I hear you talk about servant leadership, honestly, it sounds a bit like soft complementarianism or feminism light.

How is your view of intervention different from just letting the modern culture dictate how a man should act? What a great question.

Again, this one has some assumptions in it, but I think the question genuinely assumes that kind of mainstream evangelicalism or mainstream modern complementarianism, however you want to word it, has become too weak.

This is actually a pretty common conversation that's happening, especially in the biblical counseling world, as you'll hear kind of this overlap between male weakness or I don't even know what the word is, that masculinity has become weak and therapeutic.

And that's probably where we're hearing language we're hearing in the biblical counseling world.

So the antidote, the response then, and I don't want to be too stereotypical or caricature this too badly, but The antidote or the response is to the cultural decay, and this is kind of the language, and I'll distinguish in a minute where I'm coming from and why it's a foreign conversation to me and a difficult conversation for me.

But the antidote or response to the cultural decay is aggression, like an uncompromising pushback of male rule, women's submission, patriarchy, which is becoming more in vogue again.

And it seems that this is where the heart of a question like this is being built.

Full disclosure, this was never a conversation that I was involved in until recently, to be quite honest with you.

I knew that there were kind of distinctions, categories, conversations about male leadership, female submission, husbands, wives, church governance.

But to be completely honest with you, listener, and this is I'm trying to be as sincere as I can.

Prior to my arrival at what was then Cedarville College in the mid-90s, I probably had never heard the term complementarian or egalitarian.

I hadn't heard a lot of the terminology in the liberal modernist, postmodernist debate, quite frankly.
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