Sep 20, 2026 · 51 min · 10 segments
The Home of Wellbeing and Joy Welcome back to The Mood Booster Podcast. This week Charlie and Dr Marcus sit down with Dr Georgina Gould, clinical lead at Dose of Nature, a charity that prescribes…
Georgina GouldGuest
Charlie AllnuttHost
Marcus BullHost
Another thing I find fascinating, hopefully not putting on the spot, one of our previous guests also spoke about this, but very lightly.

And I've been meaning to keep going away and look into it and I keep forgetting, but the fungus in soil or the bacteria in soil, could you speak on that a little bit? I find it fascinating.

So that's again, that's one of the other active ingredients that we talk about.

There was a study conducted on patients who were struggling with suffering from cancer.

And they thought that the soil bacteria might improve their physical health, might improve the experience of cancer for them.

But they noticed that those patients reported improved well-being, improved cognition.

into the effects of mycobacterium vacci onto how it makes us feel and in particular into how it makes us think.

And there's a lovely study actually that was conducted on mice, which perhaps isn't a lovely study, but you know, sometimes that's unfortunately the way that research is developed initially.

But they were looking at, they took what they described as a as an alpha mouse, so a big scary mouse, and they put that mouse in a maze.

And the little mouse, you know, when confronted by the alpha mouse, was froze, froze to the spot, as human beings we would if we're confronted by something frightening, we often freeze.

They injected the little mouse with mycobacterium vacci and discovered that those mice... actually didn't freeze, they found a way to get out of the maze.

Another thing I find fascinating, hopefully not putting on the spot, one of our previous guests also spoke about this, but very lightly.

And I've been meaning to keep going away and look into it and I keep forgetting, but the fungus in soil or the bacteria in soil, could you speak on that a little bit? I find it fascinating.

So that's again, that's one of the other active ingredients that we talk about.

There was a study conducted on patients who were struggling with suffering from cancer.

And they thought that the soil bacteria might improve their physical health, might improve the experience of cancer for them.

But they noticed that those patients reported improved well-being, improved cognition.

into the effects of mycobacterium vacci onto how it makes us feel and in particular into how it makes us think.

And there's a lovely study actually that was conducted on mice, which perhaps isn't a lovely study, but you know, sometimes that's unfortunately the way that research is developed initially.

But they were looking at, they took what they described as a as an alpha mouse, so a big scary mouse, and they put that mouse in a maze.

And the little mouse, you know, when confronted by the alpha mouse, was froze, froze to the spot, as human beings we would if we're confronted by something frightening, we often freeze.

They injected the little mouse with mycobacterium vacci and discovered that those mice... actually didn't freeze, they found a way to get out of the maze.
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