Jun 13, 2026 · 40 min · 13 segments
Why are so many capable, high-performing people feeling overwhelmed, distracted, and depleted? In Episode 259 of The Mindset Game® podcast, Vered Kogan speaks with Liane Davey, CEO advisor, keynote…
Liane DaveyGuest
Vered KoganHost
First of all, I love the idea of inside first, right? The inner games get our energy managed, focused on the stuff that's most important, that kind of thing first.
And then we have enough energy to be able to give to others while not neglecting ourselves.
So I think it's the polarity of being able to do for another and for ourselves that is the key to not burning out as we give and
So if you've ever worked for a leader whose attention is just all over the map, I know a lot of entrepreneurs who are like this.
I go to this conference in Scottsdale every year, and a couple of my friends go to this conference for four days, and they have a million ideas.
And I know their teams are back home, waiting, just shielding themselves, waiting for the like incoming of the 50 things.
So if a leader doesn't know how to focus their distracted attention, they just dilute the energy of the whole organization.
If a leader doesn't process their emotions well, that's really nasty for the team.
Either they're impatient or they're aggressive or they're embarrassed or they're like whatever it is, but that creates emotional contagion on the whole team, brings everybody down.
And the leader who isn't managing their energy well, they're just kind of like deflated.
So as a leader, your thought load has a very big wake And so the reason the inner game is really important is you're not helping anybody else until you get your house in order.
First of all, I love the idea of inside first, right? The inner games get our energy managed, focused on the stuff that's most important, that kind of thing first.
And then we have enough energy to be able to give to others while not neglecting ourselves.
So I think it's the polarity of being able to do for another and for ourselves that is the key to not burning out as we give and
So if you've ever worked for a leader whose attention is just all over the map, I know a lot of entrepreneurs who are like this.
I go to this conference in Scottsdale every year, and a couple of my friends go to this conference for four days, and they have a million ideas.
And I know their teams are back home, waiting, just shielding themselves, waiting for the like incoming of the 50 things.
So if a leader doesn't know how to focus their distracted attention, they just dilute the energy of the whole organization.
If a leader doesn't process their emotions well, that's really nasty for the team.
Either they're impatient or they're aggressive or they're embarrassed or they're like whatever it is, but that creates emotional contagion on the whole team, brings everybody down.
And the leader who isn't managing their energy well, they're just kind of like deflated.
So as a leader, your thought load has a very big wake And so the reason the inner game is really important is you're not helping anybody else until you get your house in order.
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