What you are about to hear next isn't a single isolated marital conflict.
Across multiple interviews, some of which we will hear in later episodes, several people describe a similar dynamic coming out of the Liyana Shanti community.
A partner gets pulled deeper into the teachings, and the relationship begins to hinge on whether the other person will do the work too.
These are personal accounts, and we can't independently verify every detail, but the pattern they describe is eerily consistent, even across interviews with people who have never crossed paths and never spoken to each other before.
I don't want to go too much into things that Jo has shared.
But basically, from what I understand, when she really began to get into the teachings of Liana, she had expressed to Joe that she didn't think it was going to work and that if it was going to work between them, that he needed to get on board and he needed to pursue this healing journey with her.
Joe was very blindsided by it.
Money was tight.
Things are increasingly more just so affordable.
They're going out to eat.
They're enjoying themselves.
And this was a whole new world for them.
So when Lisa was like, yeah, I don't think it's going to work, he was shocked.
I got to do whatever I need to do to save this.
And so they did do the whole Liana Ashanti thing together.
They decided to do the Health Mastery Institute.
He quit his job.
She got rid of her clients.
He said the sound of Liana's voice became like he's so
triggered by it.
He's like, I can't.
He's like the hours upon hours upon hours that we listened to her.
What you are about to hear next isn't a single isolated marital conflict.
Across multiple interviews, some of which we will hear in later episodes, several people describe a similar dynamic coming out of the Liyana Shanti community.
A partner gets pulled deeper into the teachings, and the relationship begins to hinge on whether the other person will do the work too.
These are personal accounts, and we can't independently verify every detail, but the pattern they describe is eerily consistent, even across interviews with people who have never crossed paths and never spoken to each other before.
I don't want to go too much into things that Jo has shared.
But basically, from what I understand, when she really began to get into the teachings of Liana, she had expressed to Joe that she didn't think it was going to work and that if it was going to work between them, that he needed to get on board and he needed to pursue this healing journey with her.
Joe was very blindsided by it.
Money was tight.
Things are increasingly more just so affordable.
They're going out to eat.
They're enjoying themselves.
And this was a whole new world for them.
So when Lisa was like, yeah, I don't think it's going to work, he was shocked.
I got to do whatever I need to do to save this.
And so they did do the whole Liana Ashanti thing together.
They decided to do the Health Mastery Institute.
He quit his job.
She got rid of her clients.
He said the sound of Liana's voice became like he's so
triggered by it.
He's like, I can't.
He's like the hours upon hours upon hours that we listened to her.
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