David MillsGuest
Patrick FlanneryHost
And I guess maybe your top line opinion on whether you think AI presents more threats or challenges in that regard.

Yeah, AI is a very powerful tool and it can do a lot of good, but there's no avoiding the question of can it do harm as well? It definitely has the capability to do so.

One of the biggest things that's changed with AI now is just how convincing these cyber attacks are, right? A lot of it is more impersonation and phishing and getting the wrong emails or getting random text messages and phone calls or click on this payment link.

So you just see this at a lot higher velocity now with a number of potential attacks and a lot of it is impersonation.

And that's a large part of how we work with companies is to understand which are correct which ones you want to work with and which ones you need to make sure to flag.

You probably didn't see it, but I had to post an article, I guess an apology, if you will, to my readers a few months ago because I was taken in and literally published an article that had been presented by, now I don't know if this was a human bot farm or if it was a or if it was actually an AI, I have no doubt that the article was probably written by AI, uh, but it turned out, uh, you know, to be this, this, this fake website with a whole bunch of fake, uh, uh, writers and editors and things on it, um, uh, uh, pretending to be, uh, basically a, basically a construction content, uh, uh, site, uh, producers and, uh, and, and, The emails were I posted the whole thread of the chain of the emails.

And certainly a lot of the content on the site turned out to be AI generated when I looked more closely at it as I should have in the first place.

And another point I guess I would bring in there is I've been talking to somebody recently who had a big problem with funds getting removed, basically their account getting accessed at a bank.

And because they had fallen prey to a scheme that managed to get their password, the reply from the banks is, there's nothing we can do.

So if the bad actor can obtain your actual authentication information, legally, I think you're much more out on a limb.

than you would be with something like a straight hack, right? So that, you know, just to reinforce your point about the, so tell me a little bit more, I guess, about what these fake threats would come in like.

I guess we're talking mostly here, right, about the phony emails pretending to be somebody that they're not, right? I mean, that would be, I guess, one other more.

And I guess maybe your top line opinion on whether you think AI presents more threats or challenges in that regard.

Yeah, AI is a very powerful tool and it can do a lot of good, but there's no avoiding the question of can it do harm as well? It definitely has the capability to do so.

One of the biggest things that's changed with AI now is just how convincing these cyber attacks are, right? A lot of it is more impersonation and phishing and getting the wrong emails or getting random text messages and phone calls or click on this payment link.

So you just see this at a lot higher velocity now with a number of potential attacks and a lot of it is impersonation.

And that's a large part of how we work with companies is to understand which are correct which ones you want to work with and which ones you need to make sure to flag.

You probably didn't see it, but I had to post an article, I guess an apology, if you will, to my readers a few months ago because I was taken in and literally published an article that had been presented by, now I don't know if this was a human bot farm or if it was a or if it was actually an AI, I have no doubt that the article was probably written by AI, uh, but it turned out, uh, you know, to be this, this, this fake website with a whole bunch of fake, uh, uh, writers and editors and things on it, um, uh, uh, pretending to be, uh, basically a, basically a construction content, uh, uh, site, uh, producers and, uh, and, and, The emails were I posted the whole thread of the chain of the emails.

And certainly a lot of the content on the site turned out to be AI generated when I looked more closely at it as I should have in the first place.

And another point I guess I would bring in there is I've been talking to somebody recently who had a big problem with funds getting removed, basically their account getting accessed at a bank.

And because they had fallen prey to a scheme that managed to get their password, the reply from the banks is, there's nothing we can do.

So if the bad actor can obtain your actual authentication information, legally, I think you're much more out on a limb.

than you would be with something like a straight hack, right? So that, you know, just to reinforce your point about the, so tell me a little bit more, I guess, about what these fake threats would come in like.

I guess we're talking mostly here, right, about the phony emails pretending to be somebody that they're not, right? I mean, that would be, I guess, one other more.
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