Aug 19, 2026 · 12 min · 9 segments
You're not bad with money. It's just the way the system is designed, and the people who have the most often have it the worst. In this solo episode, Ali Katz names the term she coined for the feeling…
Ali KatzHost
So what nobody ever told you is that the system is designed in an extractive way that's actually mining us, those of us that are contributing to the system through purchasing goods and services, those of us that are contributing to the system in the form of workers working for the system, but being paid as little as possible so that the corporations and their shareholders can make as much as possible so that the CEOs can get paid outsized wages, so that the shareholders can make short-term profits at the detriment to all of us that are paying for the goods and services for the corporation to employ workers and pay them as little as possible.

Those workers then need to receive governmental benefits to be able to support ours- themselves, and it's our taxes that are paying for those governmental benefits.

The entire system is designed for extraction, and we're the ones that are being extracted from.

It's that the system has been designed to make you think that you're bad with money so that we take the blame instead of rising up and seeing that there's something that we can do about this.

We can change the nature of the game, but we're gonna have to see it before we can make the change.

But that also came from one of my longtime teachers, Charles Eisenstein, and he first brought this idea forward when he helped me to see that we're paying for the very things that we used to share in the past.

Really, the entire care economy is being commoditized in a way where we have to go to work to pay for the kind of care that we used to be able to get for free.

Everything has been commoditized in a way that makes all of us feel as if we don't have enough.

We're counting what we have in zeros and ones, the numbers in our bank account instead of in our relationships, instead of in what we can give to each other because we can't give to each other anymore because we have to charge for everything.

But again, this is something that we can change when we recognize that the zeros and ones are replaceable.

It's our time, energy, attention, relationships, health, our natural resources that aren't.

And so when we stop sacrificing our non-renewable resources and recognize that money's infinite, we can step into our roles as creators of the economy, and we can recognize that as creators we have the opportunity to actually change the game, and that's what I wanna talk to you about now.

So what nobody ever told you is that the system is designed in an extractive way that's actually mining us, those of us that are contributing to the system through purchasing goods and services, those of us that are contributing to the system in the form of workers working for the system, but being paid as little as possible so that the corporations and their shareholders can make as much as possible so that the CEOs can get paid outsized wages, so that the shareholders can make short-term profits at the detriment to all of us that are paying for the goods and services for the corporation to employ workers and pay them as little as possible.

Those workers then need to receive governmental benefits to be able to support ours- themselves, and it's our taxes that are paying for those governmental benefits.

The entire system is designed for extraction, and we're the ones that are being extracted from.

It's that the system has been designed to make you think that you're bad with money so that we take the blame instead of rising up and seeing that there's something that we can do about this.

We can change the nature of the game, but we're gonna have to see it before we can make the change.

But that also came from one of my longtime teachers, Charles Eisenstein, and he first brought this idea forward when he helped me to see that we're paying for the very things that we used to share in the past.

Really, the entire care economy is being commoditized in a way where we have to go to work to pay for the kind of care that we used to be able to get for free.

Everything has been commoditized in a way that makes all of us feel as if we don't have enough.

We're counting what we have in zeros and ones, the numbers in our bank account instead of in our relationships, instead of in what we can give to each other because we can't give to each other anymore because we have to charge for everything.

But again, this is something that we can change when we recognize that the zeros and ones are replaceable.

It's our time, energy, attention, relationships, health, our natural resources that aren't.

And so when we stop sacrificing our non-renewable resources and recognize that money's infinite, we can step into our roles as creators of the economy, and we can recognize that as creators we have the opportunity to actually change the game, and that's what I wanna talk to you about now.
The rest of this transcript — segmented and speaker-labeled, so you land on the exact moment something was said
Search every transcript — by keyword, by phrase, or by meaning, across every show Radar indexes
Trends — what is surging across podcasts, measured against its own baseline
Alerts — when a name you follow appears in a newly indexed episode
No account is needed to search Radar.