Jun 23, 2026 · 32 min · 14 segments
Discover why most large technology projects fail—and what it really takes to beat the odds. In this episode, Paul Batz welcomes Monte Nuckols, former Chief Information Officer at Johnson Controls…
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So this is... one of the large global ERP projects that I was responsible for from an IT perspective.

And then we had the one throat to choke that was that was stated by one of our top leaders in the company.

So that person became the ultimate decision maker in the steering committee meetings.

And then as decisions started getting made that was taking us off track, we eventually failed.

And then, so the person with the one throat to choke was executed, you know, and was removed.

And then, And then we had a new leader come in and reverse that and took ownership of it.

And it was a broad set of, I mean, it was the whole team that was responsible.

So if the whole team failed, the project failed, it was the whole team that failed.

So one of the things we discovered in the research is to connect accountability to personal growth.

So one of the programs we worked on together, a big long-term program, you tapped into people through a whole bunch of different ways and tools, thinking about aspirations and coming up with shared commitments.

Well, the program had to do with spinning off one of our largest division in the company and creating a new company out of that division.

And when we staffed the project, you know, both companies were up and running and they were, they were staffing their own organizations.

So this is... one of the large global ERP projects that I was responsible for from an IT perspective.

And then we had the one throat to choke that was that was stated by one of our top leaders in the company.

So that person became the ultimate decision maker in the steering committee meetings.

And then as decisions started getting made that was taking us off track, we eventually failed.

And then, so the person with the one throat to choke was executed, you know, and was removed.

And then, And then we had a new leader come in and reverse that and took ownership of it.

And it was a broad set of, I mean, it was the whole team that was responsible.

So if the whole team failed, the project failed, it was the whole team that failed.

So one of the things we discovered in the research is to connect accountability to personal growth.

So one of the programs we worked on together, a big long-term program, you tapped into people through a whole bunch of different ways and tools, thinking about aspirations and coming up with shared commitments.

Well, the program had to do with spinning off one of our largest division in the company and creating a new company out of that division.

And when we staffed the project, you know, both companies were up and running and they were, they were staffing their own organizations.
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