Oct 20, 2026 · 57 min · 13 segments
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Jennifer RoelandsGuestDebra AtkinsonHost
I think there are definite things that came out of the WHI study back in the day about decreasing colon cancer risk, decreasing cardiovascular risk if you're not using the synthetic.

So there's definitely some data that's underrepresented that we have for the last 20 something years.

But when you're talking about putting someone on it and enough women on it to say, okay, what happened to their bones 20 years from now? I think that's where this is going to be helpful and especially if we can get more research and money into it.

I mean, kudos to Melinda Gates, man, for getting out there and saying, we got to have some money.

behind women's health research so that, you know, we have ways of saying, even if it's not a randomized clinical trial, which is the gold standard, at least in the observational study to say, oh, here's 5,000 women who took it for the next 10 years, who ended up with a broken bone, who ended up with loss of muscle, who ended up, you know, we can have these sort of studies that are really about what, why it should have other indications besides just severe hot flashes in dry vagina, you know?
We have a saying here around these parts at Flipping 50 that strong does things skinny doesn't even dream about.
And you're on board with that for your patients, train for strength, not skinny.
How does that go over in your visits with patients? Because let's just agree.
And I mean, it's been a part of us, I would say for most women in this generation, their entire lives.

I mean, I think Vonda Wright is a perfect example with strongest and new skinny, right? Like it's not about, and I, when I talk to patients, I frame it like this.

do you see? You know, I don't want to mention his name because none of us like him anymore in this space who invented this longevity Olympics, but the concept of, you know, what do you want to do when you're 80? Like, I want to be able to take groceries out of my trunk and I want to get off the floor without somebody helping me.

I have to do the things, the movement, the nutrition, the agility, balance, all the things that I don't want to do necessarily because I got to build it to do it at 80.

And so this is my opportunity to take that and say, what are my goals? Maybe your goal is to travel around the world at 80.

I think there are definite things that came out of the WHI study back in the day about decreasing colon cancer risk, decreasing cardiovascular risk if you're not using the synthetic.

So there's definitely some data that's underrepresented that we have for the last 20 something years.

But when you're talking about putting someone on it and enough women on it to say, okay, what happened to their bones 20 years from now? I think that's where this is going to be helpful and especially if we can get more research and money into it.

I mean, kudos to Melinda Gates, man, for getting out there and saying, we got to have some money.

behind women's health research so that, you know, we have ways of saying, even if it's not a randomized clinical trial, which is the gold standard, at least in the observational study to say, oh, here's 5,000 women who took it for the next 10 years, who ended up with a broken bone, who ended up with loss of muscle, who ended up, you know, we can have these sort of studies that are really about what, why it should have other indications besides just severe hot flashes in dry vagina, you know?
We have a saying here around these parts at Flipping 50 that strong does things skinny doesn't even dream about.
And you're on board with that for your patients, train for strength, not skinny.
How does that go over in your visits with patients? Because let's just agree.
And I mean, it's been a part of us, I would say for most women in this generation, their entire lives.

I mean, I think Vonda Wright is a perfect example with strongest and new skinny, right? Like it's not about, and I, when I talk to patients, I frame it like this.

do you see? You know, I don't want to mention his name because none of us like him anymore in this space who invented this longevity Olympics, but the concept of, you know, what do you want to do when you're 80? Like, I want to be able to take groceries out of my trunk and I want to get off the floor without somebody helping me.

I have to do the things, the movement, the nutrition, the agility, balance, all the things that I don't want to do necessarily because I got to build it to do it at 80.

And so this is my opportunity to take that and say, what are my goals? Maybe your goal is to travel around the world at 80.
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