Jun 15, 2026 · 47 min · 14 segments
In a role reversal, in this episode Gaz is interviewed by Martin Yelling who is the co-host of 'Marathon Talk', the UK's most listened to running podcast. Martin is a former athlete himself…
Gaz BamfordGuestMartin YellingHostWe'll talk a little bit about some of your work experiences and some of the way in which those work experiences have led you to be doing what you're doing now.
But in terms of endurance, if we just take that as a concept to start this conversation, endurance is...

I've grown up absolutely throwing myself into sport and I've never been particularly competent at any one sport, but I've just always enjoyed the mental challenge of putting myself in a contest and seeing how I fare and the feedback I get from doing that.

And I'm somebody, in my early days of running, my running, when I first started running, I guess when I was a young Marine, we'd go out down in Plymouth And on the edge of Dartmoor.

And even before we left the front gate, my mind was talking to myself around, you're not as fast as everybody else.

i think i've learned to learn to quite enjoy that and that challenge personally i i was challenged very recently to uh um very simple kind of uh one of the lots of one of the or one of the lots of instagram challenges going around but quite recently to do a uh a weighted run which is something i've not done for many years now i'm carrying about 10 or 10 or 12 kilos and um

But I really enjoyed, even before I went out, I thought I'm going to struggle on this.

And so endurance for me is that ability to live with this conversation with yourself and um i've i've come to understand that i'm okay at it i'm not going to profess to be the world's greatest and i love chatting around this this is again why we've got talking again martin because uh i love talking about this and i know you're someone that's got a lot of experience about this and I'm interested in that too.
We'll talk a little bit about some of your work experiences and some of the way in which those work experiences have led you to be doing what you're doing now.
But in terms of endurance, if we just take that as a concept to start this conversation, endurance is...

I've grown up absolutely throwing myself into sport and I've never been particularly competent at any one sport, but I've just always enjoyed the mental challenge of putting myself in a contest and seeing how I fare and the feedback I get from doing that.

And I'm somebody, in my early days of running, my running, when I first started running, I guess when I was a young Marine, we'd go out down in Plymouth And on the edge of Dartmoor.

And even before we left the front gate, my mind was talking to myself around, you're not as fast as everybody else.

i think i've learned to learn to quite enjoy that and that challenge personally i i was challenged very recently to uh um very simple kind of uh one of the lots of one of the or one of the lots of instagram challenges going around but quite recently to do a uh a weighted run which is something i've not done for many years now i'm carrying about 10 or 10 or 12 kilos and um

But I really enjoyed, even before I went out, I thought I'm going to struggle on this.

And so endurance for me is that ability to live with this conversation with yourself and um i've i've come to understand that i'm okay at it i'm not going to profess to be the world's greatest and i love chatting around this this is again why we've got talking again martin because uh i love talking about this and i know you're someone that's got a lot of experience about this and I'm interested in that too.
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