Jul 21, 2026 · 50 min · 10 segments
What does a lanyard have to do with rethinking how we build workplaces? Everything, actually. This episode, Kerri and Luisa dig into what really happens when accessibility gets left to individual…
I have a hot take I saw somebody mention somebody that I really respect actually so I don't mind disagreeing with them they posted on LinkedIn that if you are moving towards true inclusivity stop giving out reasonable adjustments Obviously, one of those clickbait headlines.
But what they went on to say was true inclusivity is creating environments where people can...
Don't need to ask for adjustments anymore.
Don't need to ask for adjustments anymore.
Yeah.
And that's also...
Oh, sorry.
You want to finish first?
No, I was going to say I disagree.
But yeah, go on.
I think I'm between the two of you then.
Because whenever I do trainings with clients, that is my... not approach, but there are times and also slides and whatever is written and always taken more seriously is where I push for them to change their stance on belonging rather than on giving out adjustments.
Yes.
Because as long as you stay stuck in the adjustment land, the burden and the load still lies with the person who needs the adjustments.
So, yes, I'd rather have a world where there is so much inclusivity in the belonging, like in the beginning, that you don't need to ask for adjustments because 95% of cases have been thought through and considered to an extent.
And even if I can't build that ramp here and there, I at least have someone stay there and say, hey, I'm sorry, there can't be a ramp because of these five reasons, so let me help you.
Instead of then having the person who needs the ramp come in and say, hey, hey, hey, please help me.
But we're obviously not at a place, in no place of our lives where we can therefore not offer adjustments to.
Yeah.
I agree with you.
And maybe what I disagree with is it's, it shouldn't just be about reasonable adjustments.
Like, so I agree with you wholly.
I still think that a formalized process for reasonable adjustments has its place.
But I agree with you.
It's not purely about somebody going cap in hand and saying, please, please, sir, can I have X, Y, Z? And it also makes,
I have a hot take I saw somebody mention somebody that I really respect actually so I don't mind disagreeing with them they posted on LinkedIn that if you are moving towards true inclusivity stop giving out reasonable adjustments Obviously, one of those clickbait headlines.
But what they went on to say was true inclusivity is creating environments where people can...
Don't need to ask for adjustments anymore.
Don't need to ask for adjustments anymore.
Yeah.
And that's also...
Oh, sorry.
You want to finish first?
No, I was going to say I disagree.
But yeah, go on.
I think I'm between the two of you then.
Because whenever I do trainings with clients, that is my... not approach, but there are times and also slides and whatever is written and always taken more seriously is where I push for them to change their stance on belonging rather than on giving out adjustments.
Yes.
Because as long as you stay stuck in the adjustment land, the burden and the load still lies with the person who needs the adjustments.
So, yes, I'd rather have a world where there is so much inclusivity in the belonging, like in the beginning, that you don't need to ask for adjustments because 95% of cases have been thought through and considered to an extent.
And even if I can't build that ramp here and there, I at least have someone stay there and say, hey, I'm sorry, there can't be a ramp because of these five reasons, so let me help you.
Instead of then having the person who needs the ramp come in and say, hey, hey, hey, please help me.
But we're obviously not at a place, in no place of our lives where we can therefore not offer adjustments to.
Yeah.
I agree with you.
And maybe what I disagree with is it's, it shouldn't just be about reasonable adjustments.
Like, so I agree with you wholly.
I still think that a formalized process for reasonable adjustments has its place.
But I agree with you.
It's not purely about somebody going cap in hand and saying, please, please, sir, can I have X, Y, Z? And it also makes,
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