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The Core with Lorin Krenn

The Core with Lorin Krenn

Women No Longer Tolerate The Same. Men Are Asked To Change. The Silent Relationship Crisis - with Terry Real

Jun 30, 2026 · 59 min · 10 segments

Terry Real has spent 40 years working with couples on the brink of divorce, and he argues the core problem is that we live in a culture that values personal growth and ignores relational growth. Women…

Terry Real has spent 40 years working with couples on the brink of divorce, and he argues the core problem is that we live in a culture that values personal growth and ignores relational growth. Women have changed. Men largely have not. And the result is a silent crisis playing out inside marriages around the world. In this conversation, Terry and Lorin go deep on what it actually takes to build a lasting relationship: why traditional masculinity is, in Terry's words, a relational disability; the difference between individual empowerment and relational empowerment; how to hold your ground and love someone at the same time; and why shame and grandiosity are two sides of the same coin. This is one of the most direct, practical conversations on real relationship work you will find anywhere. Referenced in this episode: - terryreal.com | Terry Real, creator of Relational Life Therapy Mentioned in this episode: Healing Your Inner Child A 2.5-hour immersive workshop on why the same patterns keep appearing in your relationships, your work, your finances, and your life, and how to change them at the root. Healing Your Relationship with the Masculine A 4-week immersive program for women

Terry Real has spent 40 years working with couples on the brink of divorce, and he argues the core problem is that we live in a culture that values personal growth and ignores relational growth. Women…

Speakers: Terry RealGuestLorin KrennHost

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Women’s Revolution & Impact on Men1:42 – 10:12

Lorin KrennHost

1:42

Terry, it's amazing to have you here.

Lorin KrennHost

1:43

Thank you for taking the time.

T

Terry RealGuest

1:45

Oh, it's a pleasure.

T

Terry RealGuest

1:46

Thank you.

Lorin KrennHost

1:47

What I want to directly dive into deep with you here today is women are speaking their truth more than ever.

Lorin KrennHost

1:54

They're tolerating less.

Lorin KrennHost

1:56

This is creating a real reckoning in relationships.

Lorin KrennHost

1:59

And I wanted to ask you, what is happening to men as a result of this shift?

T

Terry RealGuest

2:04

That's a great question.

T

Terry RealGuest

2:05

You know, someone once described my work as women have had a revolution and now men have to deal with it.

T

Terry RealGuest

2:13

I'll tell you, let's unpack that.

T

Terry RealGuest

2:16

It's worth pausing on for a moment.

T

Terry RealGuest

2:19

Women are demanding more and putting up with less.

T

Terry RealGuest

2:23

Okay, why? Well...

T

Terry RealGuest

2:26

One of the great stories of the 20th century is going to be the changing role of women.

T

Terry RealGuest

2:32

Women entered the workforce in record numbers.

T

Terry RealGuest

2:36

Women are doing better than boys and men generally educationally.

T

Terry RealGuest

2:42

You know, back in Jane Austen's day, if you didn't marry a man, you wound up in your uncle's cabin somewhere.

T

Terry RealGuest

2:51

It was not a very nice life.

T

Terry RealGuest

2:53

Nowadays, women literally don't need men the way that they did in the 1800s.

T

Terry RealGuest

3:01

They want men, thank goodness, but they don't need them.

T

Terry RealGuest

3:06

And we've got two career families.

T

Terry RealGuest

3:09

We've got women who earn as much, sometimes more than their male partners.

T

Terry RealGuest

3:15

And so, like, what do I need you for? Well...

T

Terry RealGuest

3:19

I need you for love.

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Women’s Revolution & Impact on Men1:42 – 10:12

Lorin KrennHost

1:42

Terry, it's amazing to have you here.

Lorin KrennHost

1:43

Thank you for taking the time.

T

Terry RealGuest

1:45

Oh, it's a pleasure.

T

Terry RealGuest

1:46

Thank you.

Lorin KrennHost

1:47

What I want to directly dive into deep with you here today is women are speaking their truth more than ever.

Lorin KrennHost

1:54

They're tolerating less.

Lorin KrennHost

1:56

This is creating a real reckoning in relationships.

Lorin KrennHost

1:59

And I wanted to ask you, what is happening to men as a result of this shift?

T

Terry RealGuest

2:04

That's a great question.

T

Terry RealGuest

2:05

You know, someone once described my work as women have had a revolution and now men have to deal with it.

T

Terry RealGuest

2:13

I'll tell you, let's unpack that.

T

Terry RealGuest

2:16

It's worth pausing on for a moment.

T

Terry RealGuest

2:19

Women are demanding more and putting up with less.

T

Terry RealGuest

2:23

Okay, why? Well...

T

Terry RealGuest

2:26

One of the great stories of the 20th century is going to be the changing role of women.

T

Terry RealGuest

2:32

Women entered the workforce in record numbers.

T

Terry RealGuest

2:36

Women are doing better than boys and men generally educationally.

T

Terry RealGuest

2:42

You know, back in Jane Austen's day, if you didn't marry a man, you wound up in your uncle's cabin somewhere.

T

Terry RealGuest

2:51

It was not a very nice life.

T

Terry RealGuest

2:53

Nowadays, women literally don't need men the way that they did in the 1800s.

T

Terry RealGuest

3:01

They want men, thank goodness, but they don't need them.

T

Terry RealGuest

3:06

And we've got two career families.

T

Terry RealGuest

3:09

We've got women who earn as much, sometimes more than their male partners.

T

Terry RealGuest

3:15

And so, like, what do I need you for? Well...

T

Terry RealGuest

3:19

I need you for love.

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