The Compassionate Leader School Podcast
Aug 12, 2026 · 20 min · 7 segments
In this episode, I share the semester I spent chasing an instructor in my faculty for every report he owed me, the conversation I finally sat down and had with him over the break, and the four months…
Debbie LawrenceHost
It almost always shows up as some version of my own story, where the leader observes the team member not meeting a standard, but she's reluctant to take action.

I remember that feeling, right? So she stays quiet to prove she's not that kind of boss, and thinking that nagging is complaining, but nagging is complaining that lacks clarity and consequences.

You know, saying things like, "Why can't you ever hit a deadline?" That's nagging.

Accountability comes from clarity and a prior agreement you're now verifying.

She'll say, "She promised she'd change." I mean, that was me with Wayne, right? Of course, she did.

Most people mean it in the moment, but behavior doesn't shift just because someone made a promise in your office on a Tuesday.

And then I'll just give you one more, the, "I don't wanna be the bad guy." So when you don't hold the line, the cost of one person being upset with you just gets distributed to everyone else, right? Just think about what I just said.

When you don't hold the line with one person, the cost of not holding the line because you don't want that one person to get upset with you, the cost of that just gets redistributed to the entire team.

So your strong performers watch someone get away with less and quietly recalculate what's worth their effort.

So when they d-- they see something that isn't fair, that leads them to doing that recalculation.

Like, th- and they're thinking to themselves, "Why am I putting all this time, effort, and energy into it, and being the good soldier and meeting all the deadlines when, actually, that doesn't really seem to be true that the deadline is the deadline?" And then the person who's struggling or the person who's not adhering to the standard reads your tolerance of that as approval, just like Wayne did with me, and keeps repeating the same unhelpful behavior, and you sit with a slow build of resentment towards someone who genuinely doesn't know they're doing anything wrong.

It almost always shows up as some version of my own story, where the leader observes the team member not meeting a standard, but she's reluctant to take action.

I remember that feeling, right? So she stays quiet to prove she's not that kind of boss, and thinking that nagging is complaining, but nagging is complaining that lacks clarity and consequences.

You know, saying things like, "Why can't you ever hit a deadline?" That's nagging.

Accountability comes from clarity and a prior agreement you're now verifying.

She'll say, "She promised she'd change." I mean, that was me with Wayne, right? Of course, she did.

Most people mean it in the moment, but behavior doesn't shift just because someone made a promise in your office on a Tuesday.

And then I'll just give you one more, the, "I don't wanna be the bad guy." So when you don't hold the line, the cost of one person being upset with you just gets distributed to everyone else, right? Just think about what I just said.

When you don't hold the line with one person, the cost of not holding the line because you don't want that one person to get upset with you, the cost of that just gets redistributed to the entire team.

So your strong performers watch someone get away with less and quietly recalculate what's worth their effort.

So when they d-- they see something that isn't fair, that leads them to doing that recalculation.

Like, th- and they're thinking to themselves, "Why am I putting all this time, effort, and energy into it, and being the good soldier and meeting all the deadlines when, actually, that doesn't really seem to be true that the deadline is the deadline?" And then the person who's struggling or the person who's not adhering to the standard reads your tolerance of that as approval, just like Wayne did with me, and keeps repeating the same unhelpful behavior, and you sit with a slow build of resentment towards someone who genuinely doesn't know they're doing anything wrong.
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