Oct 13, 2026 · 16 min · 8 segments
Barnaby Joyce joins Amanda Copp for the latest episode of POLITICO’s *Canberra Playbook* podcast, arguing the Liberals can’t win without One Nation and predicting the two parties will eventually…
Barnaby JoyceGuest
Amanda CoppHost
Ryan HeathHost
But look, after much discussion, the vibe in Canberra today, I would say, is aggrieved.
The Treasurer Jim Chalmers thinks we're talking ourselves into a recession with endless negativity.
Businesses think that the government just doesn't understand them, and a Queensland MP, Angie Bell, has called for the Small Business Minister, Anne Aly, to be stoned in a public square.
It's a lot, and our guest today, Barnaby Joyce, is turning those grievances into votes.
And perhaps a symptom of that is this trend that we've noticed, Ryan, that politicians seem to be swearing more.
You know what gives me the [beep]? Labor's trashing our economy and now we've got to fix it.
I've done it before, and I know what it takes to get the job done.
He's annoyed at Labor, but when we looked into it, he wasn't the only one who's swearing to express himself a bit more.
No. We're seeing this across a range of political social media accounts, and the briefing we're getting from advisors in the building is basically they're telling their bosses to do it because it makes them seem more authentic.
Now, if you have to manufacture authenticity, I've got real questions about whether that's the right approach or you've got the right boss, but we're definitely seeing it, and I think it's part of a cultural shift now.
... and, and things that we just never used to, to hear before, but it's definitely a loosening of morals.
And if you are Angus Taylor, for example, you've probably got some reasons to be angry.
You've got a lot of competition for airtime from Tony Abbott, Andrew Hastie, Josh Frydenberg now, and of course, this huge mushroom cloud of Pauline Hanson that dominates all of conservative conversation in Australia.
But look, after much discussion, the vibe in Canberra today, I would say, is aggrieved.
The Treasurer Jim Chalmers thinks we're talking ourselves into a recession with endless negativity.
Businesses think that the government just doesn't understand them, and a Queensland MP, Angie Bell, has called for the Small Business Minister, Anne Aly, to be stoned in a public square.
It's a lot, and our guest today, Barnaby Joyce, is turning those grievances into votes.
And perhaps a symptom of that is this trend that we've noticed, Ryan, that politicians seem to be swearing more.
You know what gives me the [beep]? Labor's trashing our economy and now we've got to fix it.
I've done it before, and I know what it takes to get the job done.
He's annoyed at Labor, but when we looked into it, he wasn't the only one who's swearing to express himself a bit more.
No. We're seeing this across a range of political social media accounts, and the briefing we're getting from advisors in the building is basically they're telling their bosses to do it because it makes them seem more authentic.
Now, if you have to manufacture authenticity, I've got real questions about whether that's the right approach or you've got the right boss, but we're definitely seeing it, and I think it's part of a cultural shift now.
... and, and things that we just never used to, to hear before, but it's definitely a loosening of morals.
And if you are Angus Taylor, for example, you've probably got some reasons to be angry.
You've got a lot of competition for airtime from Tony Abbott, Andrew Hastie, Josh Frydenberg now, and of course, this huge mushroom cloud of Pauline Hanson that dominates all of conservative conversation in Australia.
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