Ryan Heath

So Raf, this is applicable to the state election and to the next federal election.

Uh, on The Party Room a few weeks ago, we had Ryan Heath as our guest from Politico.

He raised it too, pointing out that One Nation could get more votes but have an extremely inefficient distribution of those votes, and he said they could be running around then claiming the moral high ground, was his quote, while the Coalition has got, one, the actual seats and the actual numbers and the incumbency and remaining a major p- party.

What do you think? Could that lead to problems? Could that just help fuel One Nation's sort of, you know, virtue signaling, if you like? I'm sure they'd think that they're the least, last to do that, and, uh, help them federally.

Yes, we'll hear more about what went on today.

We're joined by Ryan Heath.

Now, Ryan's the Politico Australia launch editor.

He's worked previously as Politico's editorial director for global growth and as political editor at Politico Europe.

Maybe it's always like that.

Look, on to the employment figures, Ryan.

I'm with Ryan Heath, Politico Australia's launch editor for the news breakdown tonight.

The Australian Bureau of Stats figures show the jobless rate has gone up.

If you're back for more, thank you for coming back.

And speaking of welcomes, Politico's Australia editor, Ryan Heath, is here with me once again to break it all down.

Good to be here.

Now, I'd ask you what the conversation in Canberra is, Ryan, but you haven't actually been here.

Let's get into it.

Joining me for today's chat is the one and only Ryan Heath, our editor here at Politico Australia.

Welcome, Ryan.

So good to be here, Amanda.

But today we bring our listeners another great session from the recent CineDialogue AI Masterclass.

This one with Politico's Ryan Heath interviewing Anthropic's Jeff Bleich, well known to Australians as a former US ambassador to Canberra.

It came within hours of Anthropic CEO Dario Amadei penning an essay that alarms the globe about the need to pace frontier AI due to the risks.

Yeah, and so AI safety was a key theme of the interview and continued a common theme from both OpenAI and Anthropic of proactively seeking government intervention into the sector.

Yeah, so the newly established Office of AI that we have in Australia might have to look at, well, are our disclosure laws enough? Is the potential penalty for failing to disclose enough? Uh, all of that sort of thing when it comes to the big AI companies.

And then in terms of cybersecurity, I was reading an interview that Ryan Heath did for Politico Australia's newsletter.

He spoke to a cybercrime expert, who remained anonymous, who basically said that we're way behind on keeping up with the cybersecurity risk that AI agents present as they become more intelligent.

And it might even become necessary to return to paper-based formats for certain parts of life, 'cause of course they can't get to that.

Um, Claire, we've got the perfect guest joining us to dig into all of this today.

Ryan Heath is the launch editor of Politico Australia.

He's never appeared on the podcast before, but he is a veteran of UN General Assemblies [laughs] I'm told.

So Ryan, welcome to The Party Room.

So good to be here, Fran.

And the good news is Politico hasn't been banned from Parliament House, so you're sitting there in the studio.

How, how's Politico dealing with the White House ban, Ryan?

It's getting more and more interesting, Fran.