Kate HaywardGuest
Zoe WhitmanHost
Matthew MestonGuest
Jo WoodHost
Trudy HolmanGuest
Nadia GibbsGuest
Um, how do you stay motivated to support them and champion small businesses when you know behind the scenes that things are actually really tough?

Yeah, I think, um, even if you look now, our, um, XSBI data, which is our Xero data, it shows that small businesses are having a really tough time.

I think you go to your high streets, um, you go to the, like, number of small businesses that are failing every day or every month.

They're our backbone, whether it's the coffee shop, or you go to the football club, and it's the, the disrepair of, like, the clubhouses-

Um, so I think how I keep motivated is basically if I don't do anything, or not me personally, but if we don't do anything-

I think there's something that I struggle with when we talk about small businesses in the UK as a whole, particularly from a government perspective.

A micro small business of a self-employed person is very, very different to a big small business-

Um, how do you stay motivated to support them and champion small businesses when you know behind the scenes that things are actually really tough?

Yeah, I think, um, even if you look now, our, um, XSBI data, which is our Xero data, it shows that small businesses are having a really tough time.

I think you go to your high streets, um, you go to the, like, number of small businesses that are failing every day or every month.

They're our backbone, whether it's the coffee shop, or you go to the football club, and it's the, the disrepair of, like, the clubhouses-

Um, so I think how I keep motivated is basically if I don't do anything, or not me personally, but if we don't do anything-

I think there's something that I struggle with when we talk about small businesses in the UK as a whole, particularly from a government perspective.

A micro small business of a self-employed person is very, very different to a big small business-
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