#41 You Own It, You Decide How it Gets Licensed w/ James Rosewell

In this episode, James Rosewell discusses innovative licensing schemes for content used by AI proprietors and the legal and regulatory landscape shaping the future of web publishing and AI content use.If you're a web publisher and you're interested in signing the search-only contract, find it available on the Movement for an Open Web site: https://movementforanopenweb.com/publishers-take-control-over-ai-harvesting-with-new-contract/. James and I touched upon different developments and milestones for the transformation of search and the Internet more broadly. Click on them directly through the links below: - 00:18, The CMA's conduct requirements against Google relating to the use of content in AI Overviews: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/cma-secures-fairer-deal-for-publishers-and-improves-google-search-services-in-uk.- 15:05, The search-only contract is also available in GitHub: https://github.com/movementforanopenweb/terms-documents. - 17:44, Proprietary agreements between publishers and AI companies: https://digiday.com/media/a-timeline-of-the-major-deals-between-publishers-and-ai-tech-companies-in-2025/. - 18:00, Spur Coalition aiming to publish best practices relating to licensing in AI: https://www.spurcoalition.org/. - 19:35, The piracy debate around Pirate Bay and Napster that took place in the early 2000s: https://www.decodedmagazine.com/the-rise-and-fall-of-music-piracy-how-napster-and-limewire-almost-destroyed-the-industry/. - 19:52, The Press Gazette article written by Chris Dicker documenting that blocking bots is not effective: https://pressgazette.co.uk/publishers/publishers-versus-bots-trusted-reviews-ceo-on-a-fight-for-survival-with-llms/. - 26:10, The CMA's 2020 report on digital markets (executive summary): https://www.gov.uk/cma-cases/online-platforms-and-digital-advertising-market-study. - 26:27, IAB UK's report documenting the impact of the cost of advertising in UK households: https://www.lexisnexis.co.uk/legal/news/iab-releases-economic-impact-of-digital-advertising-to-uk-economy-study-findings. Key moments00:00 Introduction to AI and Search Engine Dynamics02:45 CMA Remedies and Publisher Opt-Outs11:23 Proposed Licensing Solutions for Publishers17:33 Challenges for Small vs. Large Publishers23:24 The Future of AI and Content OwnershipTo learn more about Dr. Alba Ribera Martínez and her research, we invite you to visit her website: https://www.albariberamartinez.com.She also writes, from time to time, in her newsletter, the DMA Agora, about the latest developments surrounding the European regulation: https://www.linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=7344021393451184128.\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_The Binary Agora is on social media, where we upload and comment on dedicated content only for our subscribers. Stay tuned there, as well.- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thebinaryagora/posts/?feedView=all- BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/thebinaryagora.bsky.social- TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thebinaryagora- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebinaryagora/