You are made of stars. How about THAT? You’re what thousands of women before you held on for. Joy isn’t something that you have to go find. It’s never left you. It’s been right here the whole time just waiting for you to notice that you’re still breathing. So take the joy out of the waiting room. Notice it today, and then do it again tomorrow, and again the next day, and again the next day. What a great listen this week everyone, enJOY it!
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Welcome to The Art of Living Big, where we explore how to live intentionally and with more joy. I’m Betsy Pake, your host, master, coach, and creator of the Navigate Method. Here to help you listen in to your true desires, elevate your standards, and live life to the fullest. Now, let’s go live big.
Hi, everyone. Good morning. So we’re gonna do the show today , with with a lot of hopes and prayers that Dean Martin can be quiet. Gosh, he’s so chatty today. I don’t know. I don’t know what it is, but there’s nothing that makes me wanna jump right out of my skin more than a c- cat that’s overly talking.
So sometimes when I get going, that calms him down. So we’re gonna, fingers crossed for this one. So I’ve been thinking about the show and really what I wanna talk about this week, and, – Years ago, I went and saw a speech by Rob Bell. It was called Introduction to Joy. And so I thought, you know what?
Maybe I do my own introduction to joy. I actually think about that talk a lot. I don’t know that I remember specifically what he said, but I do remember him saying, “Life is but a vapor.” And then he sprayed a spray bottle of water, and I remember the lights and the way that it reflected. You could just see the spray and how it just went away, and it left such an impression in my brain.
And so I thought, , maybe you have never had a proper introduction to joy. I have been spending some time with somebody, and I think I told you. I, you know, months ago, when I was doing the dating episodes, and I talked about dating, and, and how I had met somebody that was nice. And y- we were talking about things that make you happy, and things that…
R- r- like how I see the world. And,, I think it’s been a little challenging for me, because I’m realizing, uh, I, I’m gonna say it like this, but I’m realizing maybe I’m a little weird in the kind of things that I think about. And I don’t know. I feel like if you’re here, you’re probably a little weird, too in the kind of things you think about.
So if you were never properly introduced to joy, or if you have thought about all the things, and you wanna hear about all the things I have thought about it, then welcome. Welcome to today’s show. , I bought some tickets to some things that are,, at the Fox Theater here in Atlanta. So there’s this old, beautiful, beautiful theater here in Atlanta, and they have, like, a lot of Broadway shows and things like that that come.
But they have a couple different events, well, a lot of different events at Christmastime, but a couple that I really wanna go to, and one of them is Mannheim Steamroller. Steamroller? Is that what it is? You know, they do, like, the Christmas music. They come just once a year, and I never get tickets, and then I’m always sad about it, and so I got tickets.
And I was thinking about it, because, , Christmastime, we think about joy. We see the words. I think I have the words, like, in, in little wooden letters that I put on my mantle, or now in my apartment I put by my TV. We sing about it, you know? We see it on greeting cards and coffee mugs, but I don’t think anybody ever sat us down and said, “Okay, here’s what joy actually is.”
So- I, I thought maybe this is an opportunity to do that. And, , as I’m doing this, I love the word joy, but also if you have been here for a little while, you know Joy works for me. Joy is her name, and she works for me, so I know as she’s listening to this she’s getting triggered ’cause I ke- I keep saying her name.
But I always wished that was my name. Why isn’t my name Joy? It’s so good. It’s so good. So here’s what we’re gonna do. Get you some coffee. If you’re on a walk, keep walking. This one might be a little bit longer, and I think I just have a lot to say. Okay. So here’s what I see in so many of the women that I work with, and I’m gonna say it like this too, I preface everything that I talk about with I am the woman that I worked with, right? I, I once was the version of the woman that I work with. I mean, that’s why I do the work I do. I was talking with Elizabeth, who’s one of the coaches in my program, the other day, and she said something about let this pain that she went through, and I went through, and everyone that works at the Navigate Method has been through.
But she said, “Make this pain have meaning.” Ah, and I, I really liked that. I mean, that’s why we do what we do. So I am the version, or once was the version, of the woman that I work with. And I think that when I see those women, so many of them are putting joy in a waiting room. You think, , “I will have access to that once the kids are settled,” or once a decision is made, or when the divorce is final, when the house is paid off, when you lose enough weight to be worthy of it, you know?
When your mom is doing better, when everyone else is okay. And joy has become the reward that you get after you finish taking care of everybody. And y’all, the waiting room is full. It’s full of y’all. It has been full for a long, long time. So I wanna ask you this, and I want you to just answer, with the first thing that comes to your mind, but when was the last time that you felt joy without immediately thinking about what you should be doing instead?
And I also am curious if, when I said, “When was the last time you felt joy?” if you were like, “I don’t exactly know if I know what it is.” I think most of us can’t remember when we felt it. We don’t know that we’ve ever felt it, ’cause we’re not totally sure what it is. How is joy different from happy or kind or good or any of those things?
And I think we have gotten really good at,, being responsible. I think we’ve gotten really good at holding it all together, and then joy got sort of filed under, like, a later tab or, like, a when we have time, or the holidays, right? … joy became just the thing that we talk about and we write inside our Christmas card.
So today, I wanna take joy out of the waiting room, and I wanna give it back to you. I saw something on Instagram a couple months ago, and I’ve thought about it a lot, and I’ve brought it up to, i’m we’re gonna call him T. I’ve brought it up to T, the guy that I’ve been dating. , In any given day, around 170,000 people die.
So yesterday, 170,000 people died all around the world in one day, and 170,000 more are gonna die today. It’s about two people every second, so,, while I’ve been talking to you, a couple hundred people have taken their last breath. Some of them had dinner plans. Some of them had a trip booked. Some of them were gonna call their sister back this weekend.
And some of them were gonna finally say the thing that is true, finally make the decision, finally take the class, or buy the red coat, or write the book. And you, you woke up. And I, you know, I don’t say this to be morbid or to make you nervous. I, I’m just saying it ’cause it’s true, and we forget it. We walk around like being alive is just the default setting, like it’s owed to us in some way, like there’s always gonna be another morning, and it isn’t owed.
Not one of these mornings is owed to us. We’re owed nothing. You’re here today. You got this morning, and this coffee, and this moment to listen, and this breath today. And you might be like, “Well, I’m too young.” And likely you have known people who are young that died. I think about my mom. She died when she was 41 in a car accident.
She didn’t expect that. She had plans. She had things left undone. She had thoughts she hadn’t expressed, ideas of things she wanted to do or share. Don’t you think that changes how today feels, knowing that 170,000 people didn’t get this moment? And then, of course, my brain jumps to there’s at least 170,000 people that miss whoever didn’t make it through yesterday.
So I w- I want you to sit with it, but like I said, not in a heavy way, more like if you were kinda tapped on the shoulder and said, “Hey. Hey there. You’re still here. What do you wanna do with it? What do you wanna do?” And so let’s go back just a little bit further, because for you to be sitting here listening to this, your mother had to meet your father, right?
I know you know that. I know you’ve heard that. But the right time, right place, and then your grandmother had to meet your grandfather o- on both sides. So I wanna pause for a second ’cause your brain might be like, “Well, yeah, I mean, they met somebody.” They had to meet the exact people for you, for you to be here.
Then your mother had to meet your father, your grandmother had to meet your grandfather on both sides. Those specific people, in order for you to be here in the way that you are right now listening. If you go back 10 generations, you have over 1,000 direct ancestors. If you go back 20, it’s over a million people, and every single one of them had to survive long enough to have a child.
Through wars, I don’t know, famine, plagues. We’ve lived through the plague. Through winters with no heat, childbirth without any hospitals, and not one of them broke the chain, not one. There were women in your family line who kept going when they had every reason to stop, women who buried children and kept living, women who had no choice at all and still found a way.
And all of that, thousands of years of people surviving against all of that, all of the odds, it led to you. It led to you sitting in your car or folding laundry or listening to this podcast. Now, I don’t know if this makes sense, but when I think about it like that, I get chills. You are what all of those people were holding on for.
And so when you tell yourself your life is small or you’ve wasted it, or that it’s too late, I want you to remember that, th- that you’re the one that they made it through for That’s it So, okay, so what is joy? ‘Cause I think that we mix this up. How do we even know? I feel like there needs to be a whole class in schools about emotions, ’cause we just know happy, sad, angry, right?
I mean … And I think people mix up joy and happiness, but they’re not the same. They’re like cousins, you know? They’re not the same thing. If you’re inside the Navigate method, or you’ve heard me talk about it, you’ll know that I’m a big fan of the dictionary. Somebody will say something, “But he’s a good man.”
I’m like, “All right. Well, let’s look up the definition for good,” ’cause are- is he? Maybe he is. Let’s be clear. Let’s be clear, ’cause maybe he is good. Maybe he is kind. Maybe you are relentless. So happiness depends on what happens. I mean, it’s, it’s right there in the word, happy.
Hap- happen- happiness depends on what happens. Good news, it’s a good day, it’s a good mood, but if there’s bad news, then it’s gone. So happiness actually changes all day long. But joy, joy is a little bit different. Joy is the moment that you notice you’re alive. That’s, that’s what it is. That’s, that’s my definition.
It isn’t a feeling that you have to learn. It’s a fact that you notice, and because it’s a fact, it’s available all the time, even when things are bad. It is available in a hospital waiting room. It is available in your lawyer’s office. It’s available in the middle of the hardest decisions of your life.
You do not have to be happy to have joy. You just have to be awake to the fact that you’re here. So happiness, which I love by the way, but happiness says, “Hey, everything is going my way.” And joy says, “Oh my God, I’m here. This is a dang miracle.” So if that’s what joy is, let’s just talk about what it isn’t, because I think that joy has gotten kind of a bad reputation.
Because, maybe ’cause we pull it out at the holidays. I don’t know. But joy is not pretending. It’s not- Smiling through stuff. It’s not, like, good vibes only. It is not, , posting a gratitude list when you really wanna, you know, chuck something through the window. So if you have been told to look on the bright side your whole life, I hate that, but if you have been told that, then you might hear the word joy and just feel, , exhausted, right?, I get it. But joy is not performing. It’s not performing that you’re okay for everybody, ’cause we… God, as w- as women I feel like we’re really good at that, and that is not joy. Joy is not being bubbly, right?. Some of the most joyful people I know are actually really quiet.
They don’t have to say a lot, but they notice everything. And I think a lot of us also believe joy is for some other,, I don’t know, other kind of person. , Joy isn’t for us, or joy is only at certain times. It’s definitely not every day. It’s for lucky people, people with easy lives probably, or people who don’t have your history.
But joy doesn’t care about your history. It only cares that you’re paying attention, , right now. Right now. Okay, so let me show you how magical here actually is, okay? So the hydrogen in your body is about 13.8 billion years old. It was made when the universe began. So every glass of water that you’ve ever had has some of the oldest stuff in existence in it.
The iron in your blood was made inside stars, stars that burned out long before the Earth even existed. You are walking around with pieces of stars in your blood right now. And right now while you’re sitting in your car, or standing at your sink, or, , going for a walk, you are also flying around the sun at about 67,000 miles an hour, and you don’t feel a thing.
The, the sunlight outside that hits your face in the morning left the sun about eight minutes ago. It has been traveling to get to you, and it traveled 93 million miles to get to you. Today, your heart is gonna beat about 100,000 times, and you don’t even have to be aware of it. It’s just gonna happen.
You’re gonna breathe something like 20,000 times today, and it’ll just happen. You might notice when you do it, if you take an extra big one. Your body is gonna heal little cuts that you don’t even realize right now that you have. It’s gonna fight off things that you’re never gonna notice. You are made of stars.
You are flying through space, and you have a heart that shows up every single second, and you don’t even have to think about it And sometimes we think we need, , a vacation to feel something or a glass of wine or a new kitchen or a new man or a whole new life. I- eh, you are already living inside the most amazing thing that has ever happened.
It just got kinda normal, kinda ordinary. And, you know, I think that there is something that happens as we get older. You know, and I was thinking today, like, we’re already moving into Christmastime. I bought those tickets for the Fox. I, I’m like, “How is it already Christmas? It seems like it was just March.”
It’s like January, February, March, I’m hyper-aware that it’s a new year. April starts to feel a little more normal. My birthday’s in May. But then the summertime goes by, and I don’t notice, and then all of a sudden we’re going into Christmas. And then the years start flying by, and Christmas comes around, and you’re like, “I feel like I just did this.”
Somebody asked me the other day how old my son was, and I was like, “Oh, my God, let me think. I gotta do math. I- almost he’ll be 25.” And there’s a reason for that. You know, when, when you’re young, everything is new. First kiss, first apartment, first job, first day of school, first time driving somewhere by yourself, and your brain records all of that stuff in detail.
And so the years start to feel really long and really full. And then as we get older, I think we fall into routines, right? It’s the same, it’s the same damn drive every day. I don’t even think about getting in my car unless it’s new, right? Then you’re aware. Go to the same grocery store, same conversations with people, order a lot of the same things at the same kinds of restaurants, and your brain stops recording ’cause nothing feels new.
Well, I guess it’s recording all the time, but conscious. You’re not consciously aware. It’s just going, “Yep, yep, seen this, done this.” And so the weeks start to blur together, and a whole year starts to feel like a month. But there is good news. I’m here to bring the good news, and that is that we actually can slow it down, and it- we don’t have to do some big dramatic thing, but we notice.
When you pay attention, your brain starts recording again. A day that you actually notice is a day that actually stays with you. I have noticed this as I’ve been talking about this dating thing. I noticed it ’cause things felt new. You were experiencing things in a different way through somebody else’s eyes, and it made all of this seem really much more apparent.
And so joy isn’t just a feeling. It’s how you make your life feel long Okay. So I do wanna, I do wanna circle back and talk about the unconscious for a minute, ’cause this is, this is the part of work that I do every day, and I think it really matters. So your brain takes in a huge amount of information every second.
It takes in, sounds, and colors, and temperature, and, you know, the feeling of your clothes on your skin. It’s impossible to be aware of all of that, and so your brain really does a really outstanding job of filtering, right? So it decides what’s important, and it just lets the rest go. And so how does it decide?
How does it decide what’s important? And so what it does is it looks for what you’ve told it to look for. It looks for what you said, “This is important.” So you’ve spent years scanning for problems, right, for worry, for what needs fixing, for whose mood just changed the room, right? And so guess what your brain gets super good at finding?
Problems. Problems and moods. I think when I was married, I, I got so good at scanning. I could notice if there was a shift in the temperature m- a mile away. I would be able to be aware and be careful. And when I moved back into my apartment, or moved back into… When I moved into my apartment, it, it took me a little while to undo that pattern.
It took me a little while to stop being so hypervigilant, and I had to retrain my brain, which we really can do. If you follow me on Instagram, you know I do those good things post. I started just posting my outfit ’cause I was like, “I’m alive. I exist. Here I am.” And then I started posting the good things because I started trying to notice.
Somebody smiled at me in the hallway. I had running water coming out of the faucet in a hole in my s- it, it… w- that I call a sink, a hole that I call a sink in my kitchen. I could, I could flush a toilet. Like, that’s a dang miracle. So I don’t wanna scan for problems and moods anymore, and I don’t think that’s a flaw in us.
I think it’s just training, right? You, you trained your brain to keep everybody safe and to keep yourself safe, and honestly, my brain did an outstanding job.- Well done, brain. Well done. But here’s what I know. After all these years of doing this work, is that your brain can absolutely be retrained.
So the same part of us that learned to look for trouble can learn to look for wonder. It takes some practice, it takes some repetition, but it does work, and I, I know this from myself, and I have watched it work over and over and over again. And what you look for, you find. So my question is, what have you been looking for?
What have you been looking for? And so if joy is that available to us, then why don’t we feel it? And I think a lot of us learned that joy is selfish. And if you have spent your whole life scanning a room and, you know, managing everybody else’s moods, trying to keep the peace, then feeling good when someone else isn’t okay feels wrong.
It almost can feel like a betrayal. And so maybe you grew up in a house where you couldn’t be too happy or somebody would take it from you. Maybe you were the, the one in your family who kept things calm. Maybe, maybe you learned really early that your job was to make sure everybody else was okay first, or to make sure you weren’t detected, and so you wait.
You make it smaller. You save it for later, right? You laugh and then you check to see if it was okay to laugh. God, I know that one. But your joy actually doesn’t take anything from anybody. It, it doesn’t fix them if you skip it. And it doesn’t hurt them if you have it. But holding back your own joy has never, ever, ever once made somebody else happier.
Not once, not ever. And when you feel joy, then people around you feel it, too. You know, your grandkids feel it. The people in grocery line behind you, I think they feel it. Joy actually, it isn’t selfish. It’s contagious. But I wanna, I wanna talk about something that might be coming up in your brain. And it might be something that, that impacts some of you directly right now.
You know, if you’re in the middle of making a big decision about something, maybe about your marriage, and you might be thinking like, “Betsy, this is very lovely. But there’s no room for joy right now. I’m trying to figure out my whole life.” I totally get it. I totally get it. I have , sat in a Zoom room with so many women in that exact place.
I have been in that exact place. And here’s, what I’ve seen. The women who get the clearest are not the ones who shut everything down until they figure it out. They’re the ones who stay connected to themselves while they decide. Because when you’re in survival mode, every single choice feels like an emergency.
Y- y- your thinking gets really narrow. And I think, you, you know, we get that like foveal vision where it’s like when you, when you’re looking at a computer, you know? You don’t even notice anything else. You’re just really honed in on one thing. Your body gets tense. And you cannot see all your options ’cause you really can’t see much of anything, just the thing, just the thing that you’re looking at.
But when you let a little bit of joy in, your nervous system settles down. You get to hear yourself again. And so joy actually isn’t a distraction from the decision. It’s part of how you come back to yourself so that you can actually know what you want. So you don’t have to wait until you have all the answers to feel alive.
You can feel alive right now in the not knowing And, I wanna say this too, because I know some of you are in the middle of a hard season, maybe about your marriage, but maybe about something totally different. I, I, I hear a lot of people right now that life isn’t the simplest right now, and maybe you’re in the middle of really big things.
And I want you to know that joy is not the opposite of grief You can be grieving right now. You could be grieving a marriage or a parent or a friend or a version of your life that you thought you would have. God, I have, I have more grieving to do about that, the life that I thought I would have. And joy can still walk in the room and sit right down next to it.
They can be in the same room. They have always been in the same room. Think about a funeral. Somebody tells a story about the person who dies, and the whole room laughs through tears. That’s joy and grief in the same exact moment Some of the most live moments in life happen in the middle of loss. Because loss, I think, is the thing that reminds you that this whole damn big, huge experiment is just temporary.
It’s precious. It’s precious. Pay attention Recently I went to Nashville with T to visit some friends, and we went to the father, the father’s house of the woman that we were visiting, and he was lovely. I really liked him. And his wife had died a few years ago, and he had quite a few pictures around of her, the, the day they got married, pictures just of their life over the years, and beautiful frames all around, like a real memory of her.
And we sat down outside, and we all had a drink, and we were talking before we went to dinner, and he mentioned something about how the week before it would have been 61 years they were together. And I said, “What was so special about her?” I was surprised how much… Well, I was surprised when the question came out of my mouth, to be honest, because usually we say, like, “I’m really sorry.”
But I wanted to know what was so great about her. Like, you got pictures of her all over. You’re talking about her. She’s been gone for a couple years. Like, what was so great? And he got a little teary, and he said, “Oh, you’re gonna make me cry.” And I said, “Oh, I’m not trying to make you cry.” But before I could even finish that sentence, he started telling me all about her.
And he lit up, and he talked and talked about her, and then his daughter started talking about her. I felt her. I knew why they were so enamored and still had pictures of her. I was enamored with her. She just sounded cool And so you don’t have to wait until the grief is gone. You get to have both. You’re, you’re allowed to have both And if laughing in a hard season feels really, eh, crunchy, crunchy for you, then I want you to let that go, just for today.
Laughing doesn’t mean you didn’t love, it just means you’re still alive, and the people who love and who love you want you alive. I think that we tend to think that joy has to be something really big. It’s like something we have at a wedding or the holidays or a trip to Italy or new grand baby, and all of those things, of course, are joyful and wonderful.
But if you only feel joy at the big moments, you’ll feel it, , a couple of times in your life or a couple of times in your year maybe. But the real thing is small. It’s, it’s that first cup of coffee when you pull, the most perfect shot. It’s when you get clean sheets. I love when my sheets are clean, like I got fresh sheets.
It’s a song that you forgot that you loved. Oh, gosh, I love when I have a song that I love and I hear it for the first time and I am aware that I freaking love it while I’m listening. It’s the way Dean Martin looks at me sometimes, like, when he wakes up, like he hasn’t seen me in a year and he’s like, “Oh, hi.”
, Makes you feel so special. It’s, this morning I get a text from a friend. It just said, “I’ve been thinking about you.” And it made me feel so good, I actually texted another friend of mine that I have been thinking of ’cause I thought, “That felt good. I want to keep that going.” It’s, it, it’s when you have, when you wake up in the middle of the night and you’re coughing and there’s a glass of water by your bed, and when you laugh sometimes and you’re like hear your own laugh and you’re like, “Oh my God.
I’m laughing so big. I totally didn’t expect it.” Those moments are everywhere. They’re happening all day long, and most of the time we walk right past it. There’s research on this. Researchers at UC San Francisco asked older adults to take short walks once a week and look for moments of awe. If you follow me on Instagram, you know I have been doing this for years, years and years.
I call it magic walks. You just… So the, the study was they just had to notice things. So they had to notice, , the light or the trees or something that was big or beautiful. And after a couple of months, those people said that they felt more positive emotion in their everyday lives. Their lives didn’t change Their lives didn’t change.
They just changed what they looked at, and that changed their lives. So small isn’t a consolation prize. Small is actually the point. Joy isn’t just big things. Joy is actually, I would say, even more so in the little things So I wanna do something with you right now. It’s gonna take, like, two minutes, okay?
So if you’re driving, just keep your eyes on the road and just listen and f- and follow along with, with your breath. And if you’re somewhere where you can stop, you can go ahead and stop. Take a slow breath in and let it out. Notice your feet wherever they are, on the floor or on the pedal, on the sidewalk.
Just feel them. Sometimes I like to wiggle my toes so I know exactly where they’re hitting the ground. Notice your hands. Are they warm? Are they cool? Are they touching something? Take another breath Notice the air coming in. This air has been around the planet for billions of years and right now it’s inside your lungs.
Is that not crazy? Notice if you can hear or feel your heartbeat. You might not feel it right away. That’s okay. Just know that it’s there
T came over the other day, and I hugged him when I saw him. And he’s quite tall, so my ear was, like, where his heart would be. I could hear it And I thought, “How cool. This has been going on all day Right? Noticing. You might not feel your heartbeat. You might not hear it, but you can know that it’s there.
Somebody else might be able to hear it. It’s never taken a day off. And now I want you to say in your head or out loud, “I’m here.” I’m here. And whatever you’re feeling right now, maybe it’s quiet, maybe, maybe you’re a little teary, that’s joy. That’s joy. It’s been here the whole time. You just stopped for a second so you could see it and say hello.
And so how do you kinda keep this going, you know, once you shut this episode off? You just practice noticing. Tomorrow morning before your feet hit the floor, you can say those same two words: I’m here. That’s it. Just notice that you got another one. And then sometime during the day, catch a moment. You know, warm water on your hands, someone laughing in the other room, you can hear ’em, the way that sun comes in and hits the wall in the afternoon.
And when you see it, when you notice, just pause for just a few seconds and let yourself feel it. I’m here. And then at night before you fall asleep, remember some moment from your day. Ask yourself, where did I notice I was alive today? Last night I laid in bed, and I could feel where my body was against the mattress.
It was so comfy. I was so relaxed. I’m here. You start training your brain to look for proof that you are alive, and the more you look, the more it finds. At first, , I think it feels a little weird. I think that’s normal. It always feels weird when we’re doing something new or something we haven’t done.
I think as kids we do this all the time. But give it a couple weeks, and one day you’re gonna catch yourself noticing something without even trying, and that’s how you know that it’s working. So here’s what I want you to take with you. About 170,000 people didn’t get it today. Didn’t get today at all, but you did.
You’re made of stars. You’re what thousands of women before you held on for. Joy isn’t something that you have to go find. It’s never left you. It’s been right here the whole time just waiting for you to notice that you’re still breathing. You already know how lucky you are. Somewhere, , underneath the to-do list and the taking care of everybody else’s everything,
and so take the joy out of the waiting room. Notice it today, and then do it again tomorrow, and again the next day, and again the next day, because I think that is how you live a big life. And if you’re still here listening, it’s been 43 minutes, and I let myself go a little bit longer because somebody told me that they never want it to end when they listen.
I thought that must bring them joy, and so I will drone on a little bit longer for this episode. So I hope you felt the joy. I love you guys so much. I’ll see you next week
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