The Art Of Listening To Your Body
Sep 15, 2026 · 53 min · 14 segments
In this update, Vanessa returns to share how a slow, deliberate process led her to sell her investment property, step away from a stable government job, and now works just 10–15 hours a week alongside…
Vanessa McEvoyGuest
Jin OngHost
And this is very in line with your desire statement, because for me, I'm just like, what does this mean, giving land back to First Nations indigenous communities? So I'm learning a lot from you, and I think you're so brave because, you know, that retreat that I was on, I was like, "Oh my gosh, this scares the crap out of me, but I'm gonna do it anyway." And I'd have to say there were many best things, but meeting you [laughs] was one of the best things.

But I love that you were brave enough, because so many people, one of their fears coming into emotional work is, what if I wanna leave my job? What if I wanna leave my relationship? All these things.

[laughs] And it's just like, you know what? If it's meant for you, you'll, you'll make the moves.

But I was actually surprised how measured you were about it, and how committed you were to planning things out.

You're one of the people that I say, uh, we do this moth planner, which is literally just planning out your year, your quarter, your month, your weeks, is that Vanessa just writes it down and it happens.

And you're very good at connecting in with your desire, and I can ask you at any point, "What's your desire?" And you'll be able to prattle it off.

And you're also very good at coming back to the boring masculine structure of monthly goal setting.

Sometimes it's a little bit more, sometimes it's a little bit less, depending on what, um, she needs.

Uh, my wardrobe, I never need to buy clothes again, so I did that at the beginning of the year.

And this is very in line with your desire statement, because for me, I'm just like, what does this mean, giving land back to First Nations indigenous communities? So I'm learning a lot from you, and I think you're so brave because, you know, that retreat that I was on, I was like, "Oh my gosh, this scares the crap out of me, but I'm gonna do it anyway." And I'd have to say there were many best things, but meeting you [laughs] was one of the best things.

But I love that you were brave enough, because so many people, one of their fears coming into emotional work is, what if I wanna leave my job? What if I wanna leave my relationship? All these things.

[laughs] And it's just like, you know what? If it's meant for you, you'll, you'll make the moves.

But I was actually surprised how measured you were about it, and how committed you were to planning things out.

You're one of the people that I say, uh, we do this moth planner, which is literally just planning out your year, your quarter, your month, your weeks, is that Vanessa just writes it down and it happens.

And you're very good at connecting in with your desire, and I can ask you at any point, "What's your desire?" And you'll be able to prattle it off.

And you're also very good at coming back to the boring masculine structure of monthly goal setting.

Sometimes it's a little bit more, sometimes it's a little bit less, depending on what, um, she needs.

Uh, my wardrobe, I never need to buy clothes again, so I did that at the beginning of the year.
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