Aug 18, 2026 · 45 min · 11 segments
So today’s topic came out of our Ask Me Anything: Kids Ministry episode with Josie Rivett where one of the…
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The things I'm going to talk about now are really things that I've experienced myself, but also what the students at college have brought to me as we've talked about it.

So this is kind of a bit of a collection of things over the last few years that I've been thinking through.

And yeah, what are some barriers to people coming both to Trinity, but also going into ministry or staying in ministry? So I think one of the things that keeps coming up over and over again is that pathways idea you were talking about.

If you're... just in your church doing volunteer ministry and thinking I'd love to get a job one day, but how do I get a ministry job? What is the pathway to get there? Like that is not written down anywhere.

So unless you talk to people or, yeah, see someone who's done it, then I think that's a real barrier to know where to start.
Yeah.
Definitely.
And what

What I mentioned, people not being able to see someone who's done it before them.

So having a role model of someone who is in ministry and has the job that you could see yourself doing.
I


And so, yeah, to aim for something where you can't see what it looks like, that's really hard.

So having role models in ministry, I think that's a barrier, a lack of role models.
Yeah.
Massively so.
Do

The things I'm going to talk about now are really things that I've experienced myself, but also what the students at college have brought to me as we've talked about it.

So this is kind of a bit of a collection of things over the last few years that I've been thinking through.

And yeah, what are some barriers to people coming both to Trinity, but also going into ministry or staying in ministry? So I think one of the things that keeps coming up over and over again is that pathways idea you were talking about.

If you're... just in your church doing volunteer ministry and thinking I'd love to get a job one day, but how do I get a ministry job? What is the pathway to get there? Like that is not written down anywhere.

So unless you talk to people or, yeah, see someone who's done it, then I think that's a real barrier to know where to start.
Yeah.
Definitely.
And what

What I mentioned, people not being able to see someone who's done it before them.

So having a role model of someone who is in ministry and has the job that you could see yourself doing.
I


And so, yeah, to aim for something where you can't see what it looks like, that's really hard.

So having role models in ministry, I think that's a barrier, a lack of role models.
Yeah.
Massively so.
Do
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