That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast
Aug 25, 2026 · 2 hr 30 min · 22 segments
This week, Kara and Liza break down the SVU episode, “Guardians and Gladiators” (Season 22, Episode 1), discuss the infuriating Central Park birdwatching incident, and interview the lovely Stephen…
Kara KlenkHost
Liza TreygerHost
Steven WallemGuest
Okay, so we are in the time machine, obviously, because I'm in the woods or whatever, but and so this will be late for a lot of you, but people have been asking us to weigh in on this.
I don't know if that happens to other people that are moms that listen to this podcast or parents.
Like, it's, will be like, like, um, this person's baby drowned, and, like, what, uh, you know, it just, like, sends you articles all the time about this kinda stuff.
So this stuff was, like, coming into my feed, and then the more I started interacting with it, the Lindsay Clancy trial has literally taken over my entire social media feed in a way that I don't enjoy, but I have been deep diving into it a little bit more and So this is a woman who in a bout of postpartum psychosis took the lives of her three children, um, while her husband was out of the house for, like, literally 50 minutes.
The internet is interneting really hard and is- are trying to make it, are trying to say that she didn't do it, that h- that her husband did it.
She doesn't remember doing it, but she's like, "Oh, I must have done it," because, like, his timeline adds up.
He picked up the, um, the, the takeout, and then he went back to the house, and he found her outside in the snow.
She had tried to take her own life, and then the kids were in the basement and were...
Like, she was not a person that was like, "Yeah, I kinda just met this guy, and he wanted kids," and, like, whatever.
Like, she loved babies and, like, loved her children and had asked, reached out for help with mental, with postpartum depression, postpartum anxiety, all kinds of, like, um, postpartum issues that she was having.
And she was prescribed medicine, and then it would make her feel numb, and then she would get off of that medicine.
And I understand there is, like, a cocktail of finding your medicine, but she checked herself in to a rehab, an in-patient rehab on January 1st for five days.
She, so she was there, uh, roughly January 1st through 5th, and she killed her kids, like, 19 days later.
And in that rehab, it's like she, they asked her, "Do you have any plans to hurt yourself or anyone else?" And she said, "No," and they were like, "I guess we're good." Like, I don't know.
Okay, so we are in the time machine, obviously, because I'm in the woods or whatever, but and so this will be late for a lot of you, but people have been asking us to weigh in on this.
I don't know if that happens to other people that are moms that listen to this podcast or parents.
Like, it's, will be like, like, um, this person's baby drowned, and, like, what, uh, you know, it just, like, sends you articles all the time about this kinda stuff.
So this stuff was, like, coming into my feed, and then the more I started interacting with it, the Lindsay Clancy trial has literally taken over my entire social media feed in a way that I don't enjoy, but I have been deep diving into it a little bit more and So this is a woman who in a bout of postpartum psychosis took the lives of her three children, um, while her husband was out of the house for, like, literally 50 minutes.
The internet is interneting really hard and is- are trying to make it, are trying to say that she didn't do it, that h- that her husband did it.
She doesn't remember doing it, but she's like, "Oh, I must have done it," because, like, his timeline adds up.
He picked up the, um, the, the takeout, and then he went back to the house, and he found her outside in the snow.
She had tried to take her own life, and then the kids were in the basement and were...
Like, she was not a person that was like, "Yeah, I kinda just met this guy, and he wanted kids," and, like, whatever.
Like, she loved babies and, like, loved her children and had asked, reached out for help with mental, with postpartum depression, postpartum anxiety, all kinds of, like, um, postpartum issues that she was having.
And she was prescribed medicine, and then it would make her feel numb, and then she would get off of that medicine.
And I understand there is, like, a cocktail of finding your medicine, but she checked herself in to a rehab, an in-patient rehab on January 1st for five days.
She, so she was there, uh, roughly January 1st through 5th, and she killed her kids, like, 19 days later.
And in that rehab, it's like she, they asked her, "Do you have any plans to hurt yourself or anyone else?" And she said, "No," and they were like, "I guess we're good." Like, I don't know.
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