Feb 6, 2026 · 35 min · 13 segments
Gary and Selena drift through everyday chaos, aging, intimacy, and irritation as a casual conversation about colors turns into reflections on turning forty, gift expectations, and the strange…
But anyways, yeah, should we tell the people what my mom said to us on your birthday?
What did she say? You don't remember what she said? She said a lot of things.
About us and kids.
Oh.
Maybe not, specifically.
Yeah.
But the emphasis was to get rolling.
Pretty much.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's kind of a drag, I think, if we talk about that.
Because I feel like I'd want to discuss
it.
I want to discuss it, too.
But now, yeah, I guess the more that you say it, it makes it sound pretty fucked
up.
It's kind of a lose-lose for us.
Yeah.
But anyways, what do you think about that?
Yeah, I mean, sure.
We should get started.
When? I
don't know.
Whenever, babe.
You didn't hear the stress in Grant's voice? No, I don't.
But anyways, yeah, should we tell the people what my mom said to us on your birthday?
What did she say? You don't remember what she said? She said a lot of things.
About us and kids.
Oh.
Maybe not, specifically.
Yeah.
But the emphasis was to get rolling.
Pretty much.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's kind of a drag, I think, if we talk about that.
Because I feel like I'd want to discuss
it.
I want to discuss it, too.
But now, yeah, I guess the more that you say it, it makes it sound pretty fucked
up.
It's kind of a lose-lose for us.
Yeah.
But anyways, what do you think about that?
Yeah, I mean, sure.
We should get started.
When? I
don't know.
Whenever, babe.
You didn't hear the stress in Grant's voice? No, I don't.
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