Aug 19, 2026 · 29 min · 11 segments
This week, we sit down with **Kate Gislason**, founder of **Without Waste**, to challenge conventional waste norms and dive into the power of circular systems thinking.
Kate GislasonGuest
Sam WolfeHost
Erica AustinHost
The one that's getting added to the mix, and I might be a bit controversial adding this in, but I'm going to do it.

I'm actually, well, I guess I'll get to see it really up close and personal when I go to the Netherlands for a month.

And I was, like, shocked because it was across, like, 20 different countries.

And the one that was, like, extremely high, like, way higher above the rest in terms of, like, how many microplastics were in the air was the Netherlands.

It obviously was an exhaustive study to do to get across 20 countries, like how many.

So it was like a PET or polypropylene plastic at like a whitish grayish one at like 100 micrometers or something.

But I'm just thinking because I said, man, I wish everyone was asking questions of the audience.

Where is it coming from? Were you able to draw where it was coming from? And they said, no, we're going to have to do another study to figure that out.

because the systems, right, goes into our oceans and then evaporates and it's in the air and then it comes down and it's like this whole kind of like evolving thing, continuous

The one that's getting added to the mix, and I might be a bit controversial adding this in, but I'm going to do it.

I'm actually, well, I guess I'll get to see it really up close and personal when I go to the Netherlands for a month.

And I was, like, shocked because it was across, like, 20 different countries.

And the one that was, like, extremely high, like, way higher above the rest in terms of, like, how many microplastics were in the air was the Netherlands.

It obviously was an exhaustive study to do to get across 20 countries, like how many.

So it was like a PET or polypropylene plastic at like a whitish grayish one at like 100 micrometers or something.

But I'm just thinking because I said, man, I wish everyone was asking questions of the audience.

Where is it coming from? Were you able to draw where it was coming from? And they said, no, we're going to have to do another study to figure that out.

because the systems, right, goes into our oceans and then evaporates and it's in the air and then it comes down and it's like this whole kind of like evolving thing, continuous
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