Jul 18, 2026 · 47 min · 14 segments
In the second episode of this two-part series, psychologists Dr. Andrew and Dr. Dave continue their conversation on intelligence, exploring how it shapes learning and education. This episode examines…
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David St. ArnaultHostBut essentially, you have to have a certain IQ score tested at one of their approved testing places.
And you have to be in the top 2% to join this club, right? So, and this club has been around for a while.
There was ideas, I think, way back that if people with high IQs got together and procreated that we would just create this really super quote unquote smart society and they would, you know, like, and it's been around for a long time and I don't think all that much has really changed.
I don't think, you know, all of the Mensa folks are running the world or, you know, showing success in all areas of life.

Well, this is, again, another discussion that I've had with parents before when it comes to that top 2%, the giftedness.

I go back to different strengths and weaknesses when it comes to one's cognitive profile, right? You will gravitate towards work.
Actually, I wanted to make it last episode, but it escaped me like with ADHD, uh, attention executive function.
That is one one area of concern that can really affect someone's testing scores, right? So that is one, like if someone's getting an assessment, a psychoetic assessment, and that might be listed as like these results should be interpreted with caution because the student had difficulty attending to the exam or to the subtests, right? And that'll show up a lot in like processing speed, right? where either it takes them really long to do it or they're making careless kind of errors, right? So again, as a clinician, we're looking at all of these kind of things that we're measuring to come up with our best guess at why this student is either doing really well or struggling in school.
And lots of times they're flagged because they are struggling in school and we're looking at why they might be struggling.
Actually, I've seen this even in my office where a student with counseling and they've gotten really good at faking that they understand something by like nodding and smiling.
But essentially, you have to have a certain IQ score tested at one of their approved testing places.
And you have to be in the top 2% to join this club, right? So, and this club has been around for a while.
There was ideas, I think, way back that if people with high IQs got together and procreated that we would just create this really super quote unquote smart society and they would, you know, like, and it's been around for a long time and I don't think all that much has really changed.
I don't think, you know, all of the Mensa folks are running the world or, you know, showing success in all areas of life.

Well, this is, again, another discussion that I've had with parents before when it comes to that top 2%, the giftedness.

I go back to different strengths and weaknesses when it comes to one's cognitive profile, right? You will gravitate towards work.
Actually, I wanted to make it last episode, but it escaped me like with ADHD, uh, attention executive function.
That is one one area of concern that can really affect someone's testing scores, right? So that is one, like if someone's getting an assessment, a psychoetic assessment, and that might be listed as like these results should be interpreted with caution because the student had difficulty attending to the exam or to the subtests, right? And that'll show up a lot in like processing speed, right? where either it takes them really long to do it or they're making careless kind of errors, right? So again, as a clinician, we're looking at all of these kind of things that we're measuring to come up with our best guess at why this student is either doing really well or struggling in school.
And lots of times they're flagged because they are struggling in school and we're looking at why they might be struggling.
Actually, I've seen this even in my office where a student with counseling and they've gotten really good at faking that they understand something by like nodding and smiling.
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