Sep 23, 2026 · 54 min · 13 segments
Fi and I are pretty driven in our work, but is it healthy drive? This is the question we are posing today as we dig deep and get personal about our motivations and sources of drive. Is Fi a…
Elizabeth CairnsHost
Fiona HumberstoneHostI mean, I think I always have a lot of drive for my work, and this, whatever it is, whether it's COVID or something else, had really knocked what I felt was my drive, and you saw it quite differently, didn't you?

Well, you said, "Oh, I've got no drive." And I said, "Oh no, I think you've got no capacity."

'Cause what I was hearing from Fi was, "Ugh, you know, I'm being really kind to myself and I'm being really gentle," and that's great, but it actually also is...

Although I know it's the right thing, it's frustrating because you still have this pull and this drive to be able to get things done, and actually it was the capacity that was limited.
Not in a large chunk of my family, but, you know, there's another eldest son uncle, he, you know, he's taken a similar path to me, I guess.
And I don't think of myself as a workaholic, but, you know, if I had to be addicted to anything, it, it would err on that over, you know...
But I suppose, yeah, there's that sort of when does your, what your passion and your drive for your work tip into unhealthy-
You know, and I, I, there's no doubt that- Part of the reason I was so swiped out this summer is because I've worked too hard, and then I stopped, and all the things I was hoping not to have to think about [chuckles] came and didn't just knock on the door, they, like, swept in like a tornado.

the fast road to burnout, isn't it? We were talking between us, weren't we, about why you are so driven in your work.
I mean, I think I always have a lot of drive for my work, and this, whatever it is, whether it's COVID or something else, had really knocked what I felt was my drive, and you saw it quite differently, didn't you?

Well, you said, "Oh, I've got no drive." And I said, "Oh no, I think you've got no capacity."

'Cause what I was hearing from Fi was, "Ugh, you know, I'm being really kind to myself and I'm being really gentle," and that's great, but it actually also is...

Although I know it's the right thing, it's frustrating because you still have this pull and this drive to be able to get things done, and actually it was the capacity that was limited.
Not in a large chunk of my family, but, you know, there's another eldest son uncle, he, you know, he's taken a similar path to me, I guess.
And I don't think of myself as a workaholic, but, you know, if I had to be addicted to anything, it, it would err on that over, you know...
But I suppose, yeah, there's that sort of when does your, what your passion and your drive for your work tip into unhealthy-
You know, and I, I, there's no doubt that- Part of the reason I was so swiped out this summer is because I've worked too hard, and then I stopped, and all the things I was hoping not to have to think about [chuckles] came and didn't just knock on the door, they, like, swept in like a tornado.

the fast road to burnout, isn't it? We were talking between us, weren't we, about why you are so driven in your work.
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