She called for cyclists to be banned. Then she gave up her car.

Yeah, it's really interesting for me, Yvette, because...

And number one, like, hats off...

We'll hear about your sort of like road to Damascus or your bike path to Damascus kind of experience during the pandemic, you know, in a bit.

But hats off for, you know, reaching a different conclusion from the one that you had first posited.

It sort of intersects just a little bit with me, actually, because at the time when you wrote...

That article.

Actually, I hadn't read it until just before we did this podcast recording.

I think Laura dug it out and I had a little look back at it.

And then I suddenly realized I kind of remember that.

I remember you writing that article because you're right.

It's a small community, quite vociferous, quite bloody minded, quite opinionated and at times pretty rude.

So I'm pretty sure that you got some probably pretty horrible comments.

which is kind of unforgivable.

Nobody should do that in any circumstances.

And, you know, there's tendencies on all sides of the argument to be like that.

And when you've got a very tight-knit herd mentality online, I'm sure that some of the feedback and the comments cross the line.

I'm not going to apologise.

I'm not going to apologise on behalf of those people.

They know who they are and be better in all circumstances.

But...

I do remember that article.

And the strange thing for me is at the time, I had a column in the sports pages of Metro writing about cycling as a sport.

And increasingly, I used to get comments below the line of my pieces, which were about winning the Tour de France and stuff and had nothing to do with everyday cycling.

saying to me, how can you carry on writing for Metro? Because they are monetising online with what they called clickbait journalism, fairly or unfairly.

That's probably how they perceived your article, which generated, by your own admission, huge amounts of feedback.