Aug 20, 2026 · 26 min · 9 segments
Most people do not have a Bitcoin problem. They have a kitchen table problem. The conversation with their partner that they have been putting off because they do not know how to start it. This…
Myles DhillonHostBexGuest
Yeah, I mean, that was definitely the vibe of Bitcoin 12 years ago, 11, 12 years ago.

It definitely was underground, cypherpunk subculture of a bunch of programmers who were into this internet magic money where they were trading thousands of bitcoins with each other for pizzas.

the president of the United States, whatever you think about him, the most powerful man in the world, seated in the most powerful state in the world, is talking about Bitcoin and saying, I want this country to be the Bitcoin superpower of the world, to be the leader in Bitcoin.

Can you imagine when I bought some Bitcoin, I started telling you about it, it was so difficult to buy it back then.

I don't know if you can remember what I thought about it then, but I had no perception that we would get rich off, not that we're like stinking rich off Bitcoin now, but I had no perception.
Now, I felt like you were interested in the concept rather than it as an investment at that stage.
It was more that it was anti-establishment.
It was taking power away from all those that held power and money and weren't giving access to the rest of the world, the public, those that were poorer or who didn't have those opportunities.
So I think that's what it felt like rather than this is a way to get money.
Although the people that we met, obviously, I remember them being very driven in what they wanted and knew that they had hopes that it would make money, but they were not fully relying on that because they were doing lots of other things, but believing that they could make a lot of money in the future.

back then for sure, not saying I understand economics very well now, but I understand much more about how money works, about how money is transferred between different people, between different powers, how money is printed.

And I also understand now, think about this, if someone had said this to me back then, Okay, I'll pay you for your job, whatever your job is, if you're a listener, whatever your job is, what would you choose? I'll pay you in a type of money that can be printed.

I'll pay you in pounds or dollars, but just be aware that I can print more of it You know, I'll pay you a hundred pounds, but if I want to, I can just print another hundred and give it to some other people.

Would you rather get paid in that money or would you rather get paid in this other money, this other currency where we can't make any more of it? So when you get paid in it, you've got it.

Yeah, I mean, that was definitely the vibe of Bitcoin 12 years ago, 11, 12 years ago.

It definitely was underground, cypherpunk subculture of a bunch of programmers who were into this internet magic money where they were trading thousands of bitcoins with each other for pizzas.

the president of the United States, whatever you think about him, the most powerful man in the world, seated in the most powerful state in the world, is talking about Bitcoin and saying, I want this country to be the Bitcoin superpower of the world, to be the leader in Bitcoin.

Can you imagine when I bought some Bitcoin, I started telling you about it, it was so difficult to buy it back then.

I don't know if you can remember what I thought about it then, but I had no perception that we would get rich off, not that we're like stinking rich off Bitcoin now, but I had no perception.
Now, I felt like you were interested in the concept rather than it as an investment at that stage.
It was more that it was anti-establishment.
It was taking power away from all those that held power and money and weren't giving access to the rest of the world, the public, those that were poorer or who didn't have those opportunities.
So I think that's what it felt like rather than this is a way to get money.
Although the people that we met, obviously, I remember them being very driven in what they wanted and knew that they had hopes that it would make money, but they were not fully relying on that because they were doing lots of other things, but believing that they could make a lot of money in the future.

back then for sure, not saying I understand economics very well now, but I understand much more about how money works, about how money is transferred between different people, between different powers, how money is printed.

And I also understand now, think about this, if someone had said this to me back then, Okay, I'll pay you for your job, whatever your job is, if you're a listener, whatever your job is, what would you choose? I'll pay you in a type of money that can be printed.

I'll pay you in pounds or dollars, but just be aware that I can print more of it You know, I'll pay you a hundred pounds, but if I want to, I can just print another hundred and give it to some other people.

Would you rather get paid in that money or would you rather get paid in this other money, this other currency where we can't make any more of it? So when you get paid in it, you've got it.
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