Jul 7, 2026 · 51 min · 11 segments
This week on Should I Care? we (Sophie Griffiths & Ruthie Walmsley) start with the children's social media ban that's all over the news, & end up somewhere we didn't plan to: the boundaries we swear…
Ruthie WalmsleyHost
Sophie GriffithsHost
And as we were chatting about it, we were saying, what if someone told me that I couldn't have my phone over-

... you know, in six months' time I couldn't have my phone for the next three years or something.

How would I feel about that? Now, initially, for me, a bit panicky, but then we really got into it, and actually what we realized was fundamentally what we were talking about was boundaries and how we hold them, both at work, at home, with social media, with our offers, with our businesses, and how honestly, it is such a big thing for me, and I actually even have a therapist that specializes in working with people on their boundaries.

It's a huge thing for my clients as well, and I know it's something for you, Ruthie, as well, that you've done a lot of thinking on.

But yeah, like, when it comes to the mobile phone ban thing, obviously the interesting thing about phones and the technology inside social media and all of that sort of stuff is it's designed to push our boundaries.

It is designed to actually rip apart our boundaries and keep us on the app and keep us engaged and stuff.

There's a team of experts trying to get us to stay on, trying to get us to keep doing, and not just with social media, but with everything.

Like, how can we, in this world that is filled with so much stuff, information, targets, ambitions, comparison, like how do we hold our boundaries? I am really bad at it.

I am openly aware that holding boundaries is not something that I'm good at, because I definitely associate boundaries, definitely incorrectly, but I associate boundaries with them in some way leading to somebody else's disappointment or somebody else not getting what they could have got because I'm holding that boundary.

I'm not even a recovering people pleaser, as just a lifelong people pleaser, that's really hard for me to wrestle with, to feel like if I do this, am I going to be letting somebody down? It's hard, and I think it's something that so many women in business can relate to when we're balancing as many plates as we are.

And what I think was really interesting was when we were talking about the social media ban and how it would feel if we were suddenly told we couldn't go on social media.

For me, immediately it was like, oh, my gosh, that would be so hard in terms of my business.

Although I do have other ways of reaching clients as well, it still would be a huge shift in how I connected with people to grow my business.

But honestly, like underlying from that, there's also a bit of a sense of relief, I think.

And as we were chatting about it, we were saying, what if someone told me that I couldn't have my phone over-

... you know, in six months' time I couldn't have my phone for the next three years or something.

How would I feel about that? Now, initially, for me, a bit panicky, but then we really got into it, and actually what we realized was fundamentally what we were talking about was boundaries and how we hold them, both at work, at home, with social media, with our offers, with our businesses, and how honestly, it is such a big thing for me, and I actually even have a therapist that specializes in working with people on their boundaries.

It's a huge thing for my clients as well, and I know it's something for you, Ruthie, as well, that you've done a lot of thinking on.

But yeah, like, when it comes to the mobile phone ban thing, obviously the interesting thing about phones and the technology inside social media and all of that sort of stuff is it's designed to push our boundaries.

It is designed to actually rip apart our boundaries and keep us on the app and keep us engaged and stuff.

There's a team of experts trying to get us to stay on, trying to get us to keep doing, and not just with social media, but with everything.

Like, how can we, in this world that is filled with so much stuff, information, targets, ambitions, comparison, like how do we hold our boundaries? I am really bad at it.

I am openly aware that holding boundaries is not something that I'm good at, because I definitely associate boundaries, definitely incorrectly, but I associate boundaries with them in some way leading to somebody else's disappointment or somebody else not getting what they could have got because I'm holding that boundary.

I'm not even a recovering people pleaser, as just a lifelong people pleaser, that's really hard for me to wrestle with, to feel like if I do this, am I going to be letting somebody down? It's hard, and I think it's something that so many women in business can relate to when we're balancing as many plates as we are.

And what I think was really interesting was when we were talking about the social media ban and how it would feel if we were suddenly told we couldn't go on social media.

For me, immediately it was like, oh, my gosh, that would be so hard in terms of my business.

Although I do have other ways of reaching clients as well, it still would be a huge shift in how I connected with people to grow my business.

But honestly, like underlying from that, there's also a bit of a sense of relief, I think.
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