Aug 10, 2026 · 34 min · 12 segments
We're sadly all too familiar with the terms 'pollution' and 'climate crisis' when it comes to talking about the natural world. But what about the 'biodiversity crisis'? All around the world, we…
Flavio AffinitoGuest
Clive FoxGuestEuan PatersonHost
It's not, we tend to think of change as this gradual, you know, it's slowly going up or it's slowly going down.

It doesn't just slowly go down and eventually we, you know, we can maybe make it come back up.

It kind of just stays, resists change and then it crashes and then it collapses.

So you have ecosystems that look fine and they resist, they resist, they resist until eventually they can't anymore and they just collapse.
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It's not, we tend to think of change as this gradual, you know, it's slowly going up or it's slowly going down.

It doesn't just slowly go down and eventually we, you know, we can maybe make it come back up.

It kind of just stays, resists change and then it crashes and then it collapses.

So you have ecosystems that look fine and they resist, they resist, they resist until eventually they can't anymore and they just collapse.