Rooted and Rising Healing After Betrayal
Aug 1, 2026 · 25 min · 11 segments
This is the first episode of the Choosing Different mini-series of conversations between Hali and her two adult daughters, who were both teenagers when their family was in the thick of betrayal and…
Hali RoderickHostMorganGuestMateaGuest
How would you say that our relationship feels now compared to when maybe you were a teenager? Morgan, do you want to start with that answer?
Sure.
I remember as a teenager, for whatever reason, not feeling comfortable coming and talking to you about... feelings or emotions or boys or drama or, you know, whatever was like prevalent in my life at the time.
And that, I mean, who knows what that, you know, whether that was you not having the skills or me just being emotionally immature and, you know, not really knowing how to navigate that.
But I remember this sense of like, I have to keep that to myself and my mom can't know that I'm crying in my bedroom or I, you know, have to go to my friends to talk about things that are important or emotional.
Um, and that's definitely shifted as I've gotten older and as I've become more mature and, you know, you done your own healing and we've done a lot of work together.
I feel like I definitely can come to you and, and I do, and it's still hard and uncomfortable at times because we're both still like learning and figuring it out.
But I now know that like, I can come to you with the important things and the emotional things and, um, I feel like that, I mean, there's a lot of things that are different, but I would say that's one of the biggest differences now that we're adults and we both have a deeper level of emotional maturity.
I agree with that to an extent.
I feel like when you're a teenager or a kid, obviously you know way more than your parents do, so why would I go to them to ask for something? And now that I am a parent, I wish my children...
know what I know now that, hey, maybe my mom has gone through something like this and she actually can help me instead of just telling me what to do.
You're no longer telling me what to do.
You're helping me, like guiding me through stuff that you may or may not have gone through, but you have more experience in the world than I have.
But also I feel like in high school and growing up, I was too cool for you.
Like I didn't want to hang out with you.
I'd rather be with my friends and do whatever.
But now I get jealous when my mom doesn't invite me to go to the river or go hiking with her.
Like I want to hang out with my mom and she's been in Costa Rica for a month and I'm ready for her to be home.
Like I didn't used to want to hang out with my mom and now I do.

And I think you both kind of hit on some important things of the reasons why those were.

How would you say that our relationship feels now compared to when maybe you were a teenager? Morgan, do you want to start with that answer?
Sure.
I remember as a teenager, for whatever reason, not feeling comfortable coming and talking to you about... feelings or emotions or boys or drama or, you know, whatever was like prevalent in my life at the time.
And that, I mean, who knows what that, you know, whether that was you not having the skills or me just being emotionally immature and, you know, not really knowing how to navigate that.
But I remember this sense of like, I have to keep that to myself and my mom can't know that I'm crying in my bedroom or I, you know, have to go to my friends to talk about things that are important or emotional.
Um, and that's definitely shifted as I've gotten older and as I've become more mature and, you know, you done your own healing and we've done a lot of work together.
I feel like I definitely can come to you and, and I do, and it's still hard and uncomfortable at times because we're both still like learning and figuring it out.
But I now know that like, I can come to you with the important things and the emotional things and, um, I feel like that, I mean, there's a lot of things that are different, but I would say that's one of the biggest differences now that we're adults and we both have a deeper level of emotional maturity.
I agree with that to an extent.
I feel like when you're a teenager or a kid, obviously you know way more than your parents do, so why would I go to them to ask for something? And now that I am a parent, I wish my children...
know what I know now that, hey, maybe my mom has gone through something like this and she actually can help me instead of just telling me what to do.
You're no longer telling me what to do.
You're helping me, like guiding me through stuff that you may or may not have gone through, but you have more experience in the world than I have.
But also I feel like in high school and growing up, I was too cool for you.
Like I didn't want to hang out with you.
I'd rather be with my friends and do whatever.
But now I get jealous when my mom doesn't invite me to go to the river or go hiking with her.
Like I want to hang out with my mom and she's been in Costa Rica for a month and I'm ready for her to be home.
Like I didn't used to want to hang out with my mom and now I do.

And I think you both kind of hit on some important things of the reasons why those were.
The rest of this transcript — segmented and speaker-labeled, so you land on the exact moment something was said
Search every transcript — by keyword, by phrase, or by meaning, across every show Radar indexes
Trends — what is surging across podcasts, measured against its own baseline
Alerts — when a name you follow appears in a newly indexed episode
No account is needed to search Radar.