Jul 7, 2026 · 26 min · 9 segments
Do you know the last fruit of the Spirit mentioned in Galatians 5? It is the theme of today’s podcast from chapter 4 in The Next Conversation by Jefferson Fisher, Control Yourself. Fisher explains the…
Sheila BarnesHost
Kate MatthewsHost
Let me just say, I have, you're never too old to learn something new, a new strategy.
And he starts by breaking it down into two phases of argument, that there's an ignition phase and a cooling phase.
Well, and through the whole book, he's saying, if you recognize this in yourself, you can also recognize it in others, which I thought that was, you know, priceless, actually.
And yeah, you can, if you saw the ignition phase, it could be if you were aware of that, you could thwart it.
And he goes through the whole process of what's actually going on at kind of the cellular level.
Where you... once everything's ignited you are no longer yourself because that part of your brain yeah has been shut down so you're in the fight or flight you're in all of that mode so you're not really and you're not talking to the other real person essentially and I thought that was a great point that You have to cool back down before you can actually talk to the other person and before they can actually talk to you.
And I thought when a voice goes up, you know that they're in their ignition phase and that they feel threatened.
Let me just say, I have, you're never too old to learn something new, a new strategy.
And he starts by breaking it down into two phases of argument, that there's an ignition phase and a cooling phase.
Well, and through the whole book, he's saying, if you recognize this in yourself, you can also recognize it in others, which I thought that was, you know, priceless, actually.
And yeah, you can, if you saw the ignition phase, it could be if you were aware of that, you could thwart it.
And he goes through the whole process of what's actually going on at kind of the cellular level.
Where you... once everything's ignited you are no longer yourself because that part of your brain yeah has been shut down so you're in the fight or flight you're in all of that mode so you're not really and you're not talking to the other real person essentially and I thought that was a great point that You have to cool back down before you can actually talk to the other person and before they can actually talk to you.
And I thought when a voice goes up, you know that they're in their ignition phase and that they feel threatened.
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