Oct 23, 2026 · 19 min · 9 segments
**Perek כ״א (ב): Healing, Comfort, and Feeding Animals** When may you treat yourself on Shabbat? This section sets the line between what healthy people eat and drink and what counts as medicine…
So bundles of three different types of things, which it seems to be that they're all different types of hyssop, which was used usually to feed animals, but sometimes also humans ate it, and sometimes it was used for firewood.
But those things in bundles, that they were stored to be used as animal food.
A person can break some off with their fingertips, but shouldn't break off a lot with their hands, so that they don't do what they do normally during the week, and they'll come to crush them.
Someone who wants to crush or pulverize pepper and similar things.
It's A person should crush it with the handle of a knife against the bowl, but not using a pestle, like a mortar and a pestle, because that's tochen, it's mamash grinding.
So someone who's healthy shouldn't take medicine because it requires grinding and it might make someone come to grind herbs.
Kate said, what does that imply? A person shouldn't eat foods that aren't healthy, that people who are healthy don't normally eat, like hyssop and pear, and not herbs that cause diarrhea, like wormwood and and other things like that.
You shouldn't drink things that healthy people don't normally drink.
Like water that was cooked with herbs and grasses.
So a person can eat or use coriander seed, hops, hyssop, and other foods and drinks that healthy people usually eat.
Even though they are healing themselves, and they eat them to heal themselves, they're permissible.
Why? Because it's food that healthy people normally eat.
And Chiltit is a type of plant which they used to use to, I believe, help with chest pain.
And the person is... able to drink it on Shabbat, מותר לשתותו בשבת, במקומות שלא נהגו הבריאים לשתות החלטית, even in places where people wouldn't customarily drink the חלטית.
ושותין זיתום המצרי בכל מקום, and Egyptian beer can be drunk in all places.
A person can anoint themselves on Shabbat with oils that healthy people use to anoint themselves, even though the intent is not for healing purposes.
If it's something that normal healthy people wouldn't use, you can't use it on Shabbat.
Someone who has discomfort in their groin area cannot apply wine or vinegar, but they can apply oil.
ולא שמן ורד they shouldn't use rose oil אלא במקום שהבריאים שכין אותו only in places where healthy people anoint themselves with it ומותר לסוך שמן ומלח בכל מקום passing and anoint themselves with oil and salt in all places נקפה ידו או רגלו צומתה ביין ואינו צומתה בחומץ someone who wounds their hand or their foot can soak it in wine but not in vinegar ואם היה עונג אף ביין אסור איפה The person is delicate.
So bundles of three different types of things, which it seems to be that they're all different types of hyssop, which was used usually to feed animals, but sometimes also humans ate it, and sometimes it was used for firewood.
But those things in bundles, that they were stored to be used as animal food.
A person can break some off with their fingertips, but shouldn't break off a lot with their hands, so that they don't do what they do normally during the week, and they'll come to crush them.
Someone who wants to crush or pulverize pepper and similar things.
It's A person should crush it with the handle of a knife against the bowl, but not using a pestle, like a mortar and a pestle, because that's tochen, it's mamash grinding.
So someone who's healthy shouldn't take medicine because it requires grinding and it might make someone come to grind herbs.
Kate said, what does that imply? A person shouldn't eat foods that aren't healthy, that people who are healthy don't normally eat, like hyssop and pear, and not herbs that cause diarrhea, like wormwood and and other things like that.
You shouldn't drink things that healthy people don't normally drink.
Like water that was cooked with herbs and grasses.
So a person can eat or use coriander seed, hops, hyssop, and other foods and drinks that healthy people usually eat.
Even though they are healing themselves, and they eat them to heal themselves, they're permissible.
Why? Because it's food that healthy people normally eat.
And Chiltit is a type of plant which they used to use to, I believe, help with chest pain.
And the person is... able to drink it on Shabbat, מותר לשתותו בשבת, במקומות שלא נהגו הבריאים לשתות החלטית, even in places where people wouldn't customarily drink the חלטית.
ושותין זיתום המצרי בכל מקום, and Egyptian beer can be drunk in all places.
A person can anoint themselves on Shabbat with oils that healthy people use to anoint themselves, even though the intent is not for healing purposes.
If it's something that normal healthy people wouldn't use, you can't use it on Shabbat.
Someone who has discomfort in their groin area cannot apply wine or vinegar, but they can apply oil.
ולא שמן ורד they shouldn't use rose oil אלא במקום שהבריאים שכין אותו only in places where healthy people anoint themselves with it ומותר לסוך שמן ומלח בכל מקום passing and anoint themselves with oil and salt in all places נקפה ידו או רגלו צומתה ביין ואינו צומתה בחומץ someone who wounds their hand or their foot can soak it in wine but not in vinegar ואם היה עונג אף ביין אסור איפה The person is delicate.
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