Visein Tal Umatar when traveling between Israel and Diaspora after 7th of Cheshvan

And so too regarding this matter we find a major debate amongst the poiskim.

A large group of poiskim who we will soon name rule that you follow where you came from.

So if you're an Israeli who traveled to the diaspora, comes the 7th of Mar Cheshvan, you begin asking for rain in Bar Echoleinu, just like in Eretz Yisrael, because that's where you live.

Your family is there.

That's where you need the blessings.

So even though you're a yachid, a single individual amongst a community who's not saying it, nonetheless you say it.

So rules the pre-chodesh in chapter 117, the marikash in Erech Lechem, Halachis, Ktanis, Radbaz, in volume 5, Tshuva 55, the Shalmei Tzibba, the Trimagodim, the Bekiva Ege, the Shulchan Hator, the Toschaim Sefer, the Gosmeishe, and other Peskei Direinu.

Other Paiska Moeva ruled that a traveler always follows the arrival destination, and thus if you're traveling from Eretz Yisrael to the Diaspora before the 7th of Mar Cheshvin, when the 7th of Mar Cheshvin arrives, you do not say the same Talamot to Levrocha, as you follow the custom of your current community that you're in, which does not begin to say it until the 5th of December.

If you happen to return to Eretz Yisrael before the 5th of December, you'll start saying Elekdei Eretz Yisrael.

But until then, you don't say it.

So rules the Chidam, Berkei Yosef, based on many G'daylim of his time.

So rules the Dvar Shmuel, Shalmei Tzibor, Beis Oved, Ber Chaim of Shmuel Vital, Chesed La'alofim, the K'tzai Sashulchan, and other Pesachim.

Practically, how do we rule? And is there a difference between the variety of cases as we will delineate? We will list four different cases here that require an arbitration of what to do regarding this big machleikas.

And so too regarding this matter we find a major debate amongst the poiskim.

A large group of poiskim who we will soon name rule that you follow where you came from.

So if you're an Israeli who traveled to the diaspora, comes the 7th of Mar Cheshvan, you begin asking for rain in Bar Echoleinu, just like in Eretz Yisrael, because that's where you live.

Your family is there.

That's where you need the blessings.

So even though you're a yachid, a single individual amongst a community who's not saying it, nonetheless you say it.

So rules the pre-chodesh in chapter 117, the marikash in Erech Lechem, Halachis, Ktanis, Radbaz, in volume 5, Tshuva 55, the Shalmei Tzibba, the Trimagodim, the Bekiva Ege, the Shulchan Hator, the Toschaim Sefer, the Gosmeishe, and other Peskei Direinu.

Other Paiska Moeva ruled that a traveler always follows the arrival destination, and thus if you're traveling from Eretz Yisrael to the Diaspora before the 7th of Mar Cheshvin, when the 7th of Mar Cheshvin arrives, you do not say the same Talamot to Levrocha, as you follow the custom of your current community that you're in, which does not begin to say it until the 5th of December.

If you happen to return to Eretz Yisrael before the 5th of December, you'll start saying Elekdei Eretz Yisrael.

But until then, you don't say it.

So rules the Chidam, Berkei Yosef, based on many G'daylim of his time.

So rules the Dvar Shmuel, Shalmei Tzibor, Beis Oved, Ber Chaim of Shmuel Vital, Chesed La'alofim, the K'tzai Sashulchan, and other Pesachim.

Practically, how do we rule? And is there a difference between the variety of cases as we will delineate? We will list four different cases here that require an arbitration of what to do regarding this big machleikas.