Aug 20, 2026 · 53 min · 16 segments
In this podcast episode, Prabh speaks with David, a cybersecurity risk governance leader, about Enterprise Risk Management, GRC, risk appetite, risk tolerance, executive reporting, AI risk, and how to…
David VohradskyGuest
Prabh NairHost
So mostly in the companies, when we start risk management, who will be the first contact point to whom we need to reach out to first? Because we have a certification, we have a book, but in practical things are different.

If I'm a risk practitioner, if I'm going to the organization, whom should be the first contact point?

I think obviously the person engaged you, but typically you'd go into an organisation and they look to you as being the expert in your domain, even if you're not.

So it's often and that's probably where I read all my articles that you've read.

It was really me in the early days trying to work out what to do myself and doing the research and putting together those easy to use guides.

So I think You'd probably go to the business and try to understand what the business is trying to achieve.

As I said in the first question, go and look at the organisation's objectives.

What's the objectives of the organisation? And then look at, okay, what's the objectives of the IT? What's the IT strategy underpinning that? Oh, there isn't.

or what probably should it be, or what are the people telling you that they're doing that leads you to think what the IT strategy might be.

And from there, you can build up a view as to, okay, here's the things they're trying to do.

They're trying to They're trying to increase their market share by embracing a digital first organisation, for instance.

So therefore, what are we trying to do? The IT is trying to implement a lot of software as a service offerings and therefore they'll need to think about the risk of those.

So what are the frameworks we need to think about for what's the regulatory environment and what's the frameworks that apply to the businesses that they need to do.

And there may be sort of business objectives and business frameworks and regulatory requirements, but they're maybe just looking at the objectives and what you think the risks may be in those business objectives and start to talk to some of the people in the business.

So if it's in that digital world, you might talk to the marketing people and say, oh, what's happening in your world and what are the challenges?

So mostly in the companies, when we start risk management, who will be the first contact point to whom we need to reach out to first? Because we have a certification, we have a book, but in practical things are different.

If I'm a risk practitioner, if I'm going to the organization, whom should be the first contact point?

I think obviously the person engaged you, but typically you'd go into an organisation and they look to you as being the expert in your domain, even if you're not.

So it's often and that's probably where I read all my articles that you've read.

It was really me in the early days trying to work out what to do myself and doing the research and putting together those easy to use guides.

So I think You'd probably go to the business and try to understand what the business is trying to achieve.

As I said in the first question, go and look at the organisation's objectives.

What's the objectives of the organisation? And then look at, okay, what's the objectives of the IT? What's the IT strategy underpinning that? Oh, there isn't.

or what probably should it be, or what are the people telling you that they're doing that leads you to think what the IT strategy might be.

And from there, you can build up a view as to, okay, here's the things they're trying to do.

They're trying to They're trying to increase their market share by embracing a digital first organisation, for instance.

So therefore, what are we trying to do? The IT is trying to implement a lot of software as a service offerings and therefore they'll need to think about the risk of those.

So what are the frameworks we need to think about for what's the regulatory environment and what's the frameworks that apply to the businesses that they need to do.

And there may be sort of business objectives and business frameworks and regulatory requirements, but they're maybe just looking at the objectives and what you think the risks may be in those business objectives and start to talk to some of the people in the business.

So if it's in that digital world, you might talk to the marketing people and say, oh, what's happening in your world and what are the challenges?
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