Aug 6, 2026 · 42 min · 12 segments
After 22 years on antidepressants—escalating from a quarter dose to maximum doses of multiple medications—Dr. Noushin Hart hit a wall: her psychiatrist said he had nothing else to offer. Instead of…
Noushin HartGuest
Adam RindeHost
So after I came out of the shock of digesting that, the very first thing I did, I went to Brazil to John of God.

And at that point, as a Western trained physician who was always asking for data, data went out of the door.

I mean, what else am I going to do? Because the last thing he said, he said, I suggest you do electroconvulsive therapy.

Because as a physician, you know, one of the major side effects of electroconvulsive therapy, besides the fact that it's gruesome, I had watched it done to other people, is that you can lose memory.

And at that point, going to Brazil to John of God sounds a whole lot better than electroconvulsive therapy.

Well, nothing happened when I came from John of God, but that opened me to trying any other modality.

And believe me, I can write four pages of all modalities I tried, which did not work.

Later on, a transcranial magnetic stimulation came up, which I tried, which didn't help.

And I don't want to give this suggestion to your audience that these things don't work for anything.

And I think that it's good to have many tools in the box because some of them work for some people, some of them don't.

So the fact that I came out of that box of, oh, I need data, I need data, led me to these two modalities that I believe they saved my life.

So after I came out of the shock of digesting that, the very first thing I did, I went to Brazil to John of God.

And at that point, as a Western trained physician who was always asking for data, data went out of the door.

I mean, what else am I going to do? Because the last thing he said, he said, I suggest you do electroconvulsive therapy.

Because as a physician, you know, one of the major side effects of electroconvulsive therapy, besides the fact that it's gruesome, I had watched it done to other people, is that you can lose memory.

And at that point, going to Brazil to John of God sounds a whole lot better than electroconvulsive therapy.

Well, nothing happened when I came from John of God, but that opened me to trying any other modality.

And believe me, I can write four pages of all modalities I tried, which did not work.

Later on, a transcranial magnetic stimulation came up, which I tried, which didn't help.

And I don't want to give this suggestion to your audience that these things don't work for anything.

And I think that it's good to have many tools in the box because some of them work for some people, some of them don't.

So the fact that I came out of that box of, oh, I need data, I need data, led me to these two modalities that I believe they saved my life.
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